Political Ideology On Privately Issued Bullion

The first thing I have to note is:



As if they cannot be more unoriginal...

Coin is so heavily overpriced...I think the only reason it exists is to extract money of those who take this sort of stance in politics.

Politics should be driven by the moderates -- not the people who believe in this sort of stuff.

But for ideological reasons, I believe bullion promoting conservative cause has always existed, almost always priced higher than buffalo rounds on ebay. On the other hand, I have not observed too many rounds or bullions promoting liberal causes.


The price of hate on this is $50.

http://www.providentmetals.com/2nd-...r-round.html > This has apparently been sold out despite having a high premium for a copper round.

Although I have to note: None are as extreme as to impinge a particular politician.

Description of this forum states "This is NOT a political forum and purely political discussions will be locked." I don't think this discussion is purely political; it's more about the portrayal of politics on bullion products and how collecting/investment has been politicized.

But Indeed, I think bullion in America is generally characterized by the fiscally conservative. I myself though take a quite centrist stance on fiscal and (according to America's standards) a liberal stance on social issues.

Interesting point... Doing a quick web search, I do not find anything that's inherently liberal.
If anything, you have classical silver rounds that would be centrist on viewpoint...the ones before they began to become political objects
The ASEs, ATBs, Buffaloes.

ATB 5oz rounds in particular show parks and can be seen as promoting environmental conservationalism, a goal of liberal policy. Other than that, not to my knowledge. I think others can chime in.

You know, I think one reason why liberal silver rounds are hard to come by is that the liberal platform is more abstract. Thus, it's difficult to gracefully or cleanly depict the cause

Like for instance... You can depict right to bear arms with a picture of a gun, but how would you depict the lack of guns in a good manner?
You could also depict the petroleum industry, but how would you depict lack of petroleum? Of course, you can have a coin depicting solar panels or alternative energy, but I've never seen such a coin before.

But my opinion on collecting coins is to be open minded, not allowing politics (and your emotions possibly towards particular causes) to sway what you collect. For instance, I just received this coin today:



I don't wholeheartedly agree with the exploitation of petroleum, but I thought the design was very elegant, and I really like the ligature on the back.

Plus, (being a some-of-everything coin collector), this coin represents the first half-crown sized silver coin from the Arab world ever in my collection. I thought of the coin when deciding to buy it--not the politics behind it.

I have a few "bit coin" rounds. (1 ounce copper rounds, with various plating, making them look gold, silver or copper coloured) A novelty item for sure, and I have seen multiple designs of these.

The crypto currency seems to have fallen on its face - it was said that it was inflation proof (due to the finite number of cryptographic solutions) but they just swamped everyone with more and more different currencies which essentially diluted the significance of each one.

I guess I am right of centre in many ways, but the idea of decentralised currency appealed to me. Many of the things that the left say I would consider to come from a good place, but in many cases it seems to lack insight into the way the world actually works. (For example "we want a world without nukes, lets get rid of our nuclear deterrent" - this stance seems admirable but then raises the chance of a conflict because it puts you at disadvantage to other nations, nobody in their right mind would attack a country with nuclear capability!) That's only one example but there seems to me to be a certain amount of naivety on the left, like just because you want something you can wish it into existence. (like don't cut any spending even if we are massively in debt)

We are bombarded with rhetoric and propaganda from all sides, surely coinage/bullion is just one more route to deliver it?

What was said about putting guns on coins or petrol industry stuff I don't think is so much about the imagery. You could make a coin as tribute to a shooting, or an image of environmental disaster for anti-petroleum. The difference I think largely stems from the gun/petrol industries make money, and therefore a tiny percentage of that money gets spent on these things. The protest against such things isn't such a money maker, and it would be seen to be a bit extravagant to spent charitable donations on silver and gold bars.

Love it. And I didn't think I'd ever say that about an Obama coin. Enough said on my part as I'm pretty sure the mod forum has a bet going on how long this thread will last.

On a side note I have run across one before. It was a golden dollar with a kennedy reverse dated 2009 on a card. I belive it was marketed as an inauguration novelty.

I'm 100% in favor of mocking politicians. If they don't like it, they shouldn't earn the bad reputation. Some have done such terrible things that is insane to presume they should be protected from a little questionable chiding. I've got enough dirt on D's and R's that it can be applied equally. As for Liberal philosophies depicted on coins, it is very easy to do. It's just that they wouldn't want some of their political platform shown on a coin. Use your imagination as I have no desire to provoke the moderators.