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Frankly many on the left side of the political spectrum see precious metals as a barbarous relic of the distant past so they are not likely to create propaganda using them. Plenty right of center politicians don't like precious metals either. Gold & Silver hoarding has always been more of a platform promoted by libertarians, not by the mainstream political elite.

I'm a democrat and I still like to invest in silver, although I know bullion investment typically is associated with conservativism and libertarianism. Some people who follow extreme libertarian political views see precious metals as a safeguard against the collapse of the US dollar, although I see it as no more than a good way to make some money if I time it right.
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Another example of political ideology on bullion is the slave queen, debt & death, and other associated silver rounds produced by SBSS. I recently seen a kraken queen round with a skeletal queen on one side and a 'kraken queen' on the other depicting the royal head and crown with the body of a Kraken, the mythological sea monster of Scandinavian lore. These rounds definitely have a libertarian, anti-establishment theme that I find hard to refute. All power corrupts and it seems that all politicians no matter their ideology are remarkably similar after the campaign is over and they begin to realize the challenges of governing. Special interests are remarkably entrenched on both sides of the aisle and if you want to keep your job in D.C. you have to compromise your ideals to keep them from throwing you out.
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although I see it as no more than a good way to make some money if I time it right.


As with many things in life the precious metals markets are rigged. I question any investment where the market is so manipulated and is not able to follow free market principles. It is my belief that part of the reason why it is rigged is political. Why would those in power want the common man to be able to discard fiat currency for something of true value that is not dependent on faith and trust in the Dollar ?
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The bottom line is that liberal ideas are not depicted on coins because they won't sell. It's no more complicated than that. Liberals tend to view government as the fallback plan. Conservatives & Libertarians tend to view precious metals as the fallback plan to the economic damage caused by big government. Besides, how would one depict taking from those who earn to empower politicians so they can keep people dependent?


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Democrats are champions of net neutrality and (arguably) freedom of speech [trigger warning].

Democrats want to regulate the internet so they can determine what can/can't be said and who can use it for what. "Net neutrality" is the complete opposite of freedom which is defined as the power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hindrance or restraint. Kind of reminds me how Roosevelt made possession of gold illegal. It had nothing to do with freedom and everything to do with controlling the finances of the people.


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I give it two thumbs down.
I do not mind political stuff on rounds/medals if it remains positive. I greatly mind this type of political ideology on rounds/medals and in general. Us vs them mentality has got to go. We need to work together instead of trying to tear each other down.

I give it two thumbs down as well because the last thing that I want to see on a coin or round is something that resembles Obama. I agree that the divisiveness he promotes has got to go. Hopefully the next President will put US citizens first instead of the illegal border hoppers he's trying to make citizens to increase the Democrat election rolls. BTW, if you don't believe that, ask yourself a question. Would Obama and the rest of the liberals be all for making the illegals citizens if they knew these new citizens would vote 80% of the time for Republicans? If you're honest with yourself, you know the answer is no way. It's all about who it empowers and has nothing to do with caring.
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The price of hate on this is $50.


The only hate I see is the price of it... Yikes!!
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Politics should be driven by the moderates -- not the people who believe in this sort of stuff.

Moderates are cowards that wait until everyone else has offered their opinions and then declare they occupy the virtuous high ground in the middle of the other opinions. Moderates are the type of people who gave us the 3/5th's Compromise.


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The price of hate on this is $50.

If someone is fool enough to pay that much then let them be parted with their money. However, declaring that everyone who respects that flag is a hater is just ignorant. Sure, some are. But for most it's just about respecting their heritage. I grew up in the 70's & 80's with black and white people. Never once did I hear a black or white person claim that the flag represented anything hateful. Then in the 90's, politicians decided label it hate as a tool for political gain. Next on their list is the carving on the side of Stone Mountain. Better hide your Stone Mountain Halves. They'll be calling you a hater for having them and demanding that they all be melted down.


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but how would you depict the lack of guns in a good manner?


I think the Zombucks series already showed what happens

There are collectors for anything. If you want to collect liberal there are bus passes and food stamps before the system went electronic.

And before anyone says someone "overpaid" when they spent $40 for $14 in silver because of the ideology on the round or bar ask yourself this: you just paid $1000 for a 1916D Mercury dime that 95% of the public says is only worth 10¢.

Something is worth in $ what YOU feel it is worth at heart.
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I agree- if people are willing to pay $50 for that, it's worth $50.


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3/5th's Compromise.

That should just be '3/5 Compromise'.
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Since there has yet to be an official Obama presidential medal from the U.S. Mint, I guess this new Obama Zombie silver round will have to do for now.
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That should just be '3/5 Compromise'.

I learned it as Three-Fifths Compromise, but either way will work. The irony is that those counted as 3/5ths of a person were still denied 100% of their basic human rights.



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And before anyone says someone "overpaid" when they spent $40 for $14 in silver because of the ideology on the round or bar ask yourself this: you just paid $1000 for a 1916D Mercury dime that 95% of the public says is only worth 10¢.

Excellent point!
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If someone is fool enough to pay that much then let them be parted with their money. However, declaring that everyone who respects that flag is a hater is just ignorant. Sure, some are. But for most it's just about respecting their heritage. I grew up in the 70's & 80's with black and white people. Never once did I hear a black or white person claim that the flag represented anything hateful. Then in the 90's, politicians decided label it hate as a tool for political gain. Next on their list is the carving on the side of Stone Mountain. Better hide your Stone Mountain Halves. They'll be calling you a hater for having them and demanding that they all be melted down.





I really wanted to say what I thought about his post but then it would have gotten all political and I just don't want to see that happen on this website... It wasn't what he said that didn't sit well with me it was the fact he was wrong about what the flag was and what it meant... It was the battle flag for the Army of Northern Virgina and was never the "official" flag of the Confederacy...



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I learned it as Three-Fifths Compromise, but either way will work. The irony is that those counted as 3/5ths of a person were still denied 100% of their basic human rights.

All I was saying is that the fraction is written as '3/5' and pronounced as 'three fifths'.
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