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Communities Considering Bans On 'Cash For Gold' Shops

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 Posted 12/16/2015  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add llewellin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Collects82, who presents some good points. Also, economics says that if you believe these shops are creating a negative externality on society, then you should just tax them accordingly to compensate for that externality, not outright ban them. Then those extra tax dollars, while imposing a disincentive on these businesses, yield funds to correct for the downsides on society of such shops doing business.
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 Posted 12/16/2015  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Also, economics says that if you believe these shops are creating a negative externality on society, then you should just tax them accordingly to compensate for that externality, not outright ban them.


That's not economics that's social engineering using the tax code to try and create a desired result. Creating a de-facto ban taxing things out of existence is no different than an actual ban. You should also need a lot more evidence than just a belief to even remotely consider that idea.

Any negative influence perceived by a cash for gold store is entirely a moralistic judgement. There inst actually any negative influence at all. Crime doesn't go up because they're around, drugs don't flood the area ect.

The cash for gold places do the exact same thing as a coin store. People have coins or bullion they want to sell and they're offered a price they can either accept or reject. Coin stores do the exact same thing, people have something to sell and they offer them a price. There's numerous shops that will low ball offer just as bad if not worse as the bad cash for gold places. There's really no logical reason anything against a cash for gold place shouldn't be extended to a coin store as well aside from an arbitrary decision deciding not to.
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I worked at a cash for gold place for 5 days only, and my experience there is that the store goes hand in hand with the drug trade and the fencing market for thieves. I rarely saw "good" people shop there. When that place shut down one of its locations a year later the neighbourhood looked clean and different. Most of the customers I encountered were straight-up thieves fencing multiples of the same item or still had the tag on it (!), drug addicts with glazed eyes, and more drug addicts trying to pawn or sell their mothers' jewelry. The other type of customer that I saw was the unfortunate, down on their luck, and non-educated people who are actual repeat customers because during the 2011-2012 boom they sold their gold to this shop owner who is a nasty person and still buy all his lines. His selling techniques were, "sell all your gold, the price is crashing" and "sell your gold the high prices will crash soon!". Everything is done very fast so you don't have time to think or calculate.

I'll tell you guys a few way that they can cheat you, and has nothing to do with scales. One is their buy price: it won't be advertised in or outside the store. The method here is to be good at "grading" to be very fast at it, and take your item as fast as they can. The other method is to underkarat the person, so if a 14K ring comes in they will give you the 10K price even though they may or may not acid test and weigh the item right in front of you, and this practice makes it appear transparent to the customer. They will weigh it in front of you in grams, but their buy price is so secret that they do not tell new employees, he will just pass the customer on to the owner and the owner gives the buy price. Very seedy.
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