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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Has anyone seen this before? Seller says error caused by something sticking to roller. If this was the case, how would it be on both sides? 272075990757
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Valued Member
United States
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I've never seen that before. How can the dealer assure that it isn't PMD?  I can think of any number of ways that could happen post mint.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1505 Posts |
Interesting, it looks like there is some elements of the design in the "canyon? (not sure how to describe it). Interesting piece, not sure if it is real or not.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1984 Posts |
If the damage to the planchet was pre strike, I would not expect the edges of the "error" to have such a sharp change. I think it is PMD, but perhaps a planchet got trapped in a piece of wire like metal and it got struck though on both sides?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
5324 Posts |
As mentioned, some of the design are in the incise, most likely PMD
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Bedrock of the Community
 Canada
21609 Posts |
I also think that it is PMD. I can't think of any possible it happened at the Mint. A good example of buyer beware.
Edited by JimmyD 12/18/2015 3:26 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Even if there was a rolling imperfection as stated, I would think that the Flow of Metal during the striking process would not end up making the so called error look like a perfectly straight line through the coin. PMD !
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1192 Posts |
PMD. Two sided planchet defects like that just don't happen.
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Forum Dad
 United States
24161 Posts |
Quote: A foreign object would have been stuck to the roller and left this deep impression in the coin. Is one roller or two rollers used? If one, impossible to be on both sides right? If two, there would have to be a foreign object stuck to both, in perfect sync with each other to come out dead opposite each other on the resulting coin right?
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Moderator
 Canada
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Post mint damage. The anything caught in rolling of the nickel strips would be subsequently modified by the upset mill (which forms the rims). The only way to preserve such an element is if the collar die was absent or not engaged. Clearly this coin was struck with the collar die, and there is no dovetailing in of the rim.
Post mint damage, final answer Regis....
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1285 Posts |
 definitely PMD. Tried to figure how it could have happened at the Mint; ran out of scenarios.
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Moderator
 United States
16679 Posts |
Junk. Hammer and chisel.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Had that coin been posted here first the seller (also CCF member) would have known that its PMD. Perhaps he believes otherwise I dont know, but the coin was on ebay before he joined CCF, I think.
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New Member
United States
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I tried the link, this was the message I got:
"This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing."
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