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1957-D Lincoln Cent RPM-020 WRPM-024 D/D

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1957-D Lincoln Cent RPM-020 WRPM-024 D/D

I started going through a roll of 1957-d that looks to have more minor DDO then rpm's.

I think this coin is a 1957-D Lincoln Cent RPM-020 WRPM-024.

Really unsure on this one?

Any feedback, comments, suggestion or help welcome


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From your close up pic of mintmark it looks to be tripled on the top serif.
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nice closeup of the mm
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yeah that what I thought also .. where I got stuck as the triples are not similar
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From your close up pic of mintmark it looks to be tripled on the top serif.


Now that you say that and going back to the picture, I can barely make that out. Since it's been seconded, I'll buy, but otherwise that seems a bit vague.
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This was a find I was and am still unsure of.

To me the top serif looked tripled but it matches overlay of a rpm that is only doubled mint mark coin which it is most likely. maybe different die state, etc

So I am have no clue either way but am glad another thought it was tripled
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Once I got a look at it on a real monitor, I saw the two clefts on the top serif, just as you describe, and it appears as tripled. However, the rest of the mm looks doubled and I wonder if it is a small cluster of bright pixels closest to the field that makes it appear there's more than two stabs at the mark. I'm taking on the role of "devil's advocate" here; I can't decide one way or the other what is actually there on the coin. Not much help, I guess.
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Help a newbie out. What does RPM-020 WRPM-024 D/D mean? I know RPM means repunched mint mark but what about the - 20 part and what does WRPM - 024 mean?
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prolly a desigation for a cataloge ?
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First off D/D means it is a RPM with a D over another D. If it was D/D/D that would be 3 D mint marks on top of each other. If it was from San Fran. it would be S/S or S/S/S. If it shows D/S or S/D that would indicate an over mint mark. The first letter is the mint it is supposed to be, and the second is the mint mark it originally had.

RPM-020 is the attribution number given to a RPM by CONECA.

WRPM-024 is the attribution number given by John Wexler.

Copper Coins would look like this, 1MM-020.

So depending on who's numbering system you prefer is which number you use. I usually use all three, and if it is a Cherrypicker's variety I will even use their's along with these other three. and it might look like FS -502

They all usually give them the next number in their own system as they attribute them. So say Copper Coins has attributted 37 different RPMs for 1988, the next new one will be given the number 1MM-038. Now that exact same variety comes to CONECA and is attributed by them for the first time. They have attributed only 9 different RPMs for 1988, so the new one would be number RPM-010 to them. For John Wexler, it would be whatever his next available number is for 1988-D RPMs.

This is one of the most confusing aspects of varieties, and it really is just semantics. It would be great if they all lined up and used the same numbering system, but it will never happen. Each has put decades into their own system. Each feels their way is best. Plus they do not always agree on varieties.

I could probably go into more detail, but I do not want to bore everyone.
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This one is a nice RPM. With the doubled upper serifs and the single lower serif. I would save this one to submit to someone. But it is not 1957-D RPM # 20 on CONECA. (that one is an East) It is not coppercoins 1957D-1MM-020 or 024:
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The locations, rotations and lower serifs are all different shaped. I don't have a listing for 1957-D WRPM-024 at this time to compare with. So I feel it is unlisted at this time. A keeper though.
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thanks Coop.. I will put it with the other unlisted
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