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I have run into a large number of "neither, nor", cents, that can't be decided by the position af the apex/denticle alone. All very close to the denticle, but not quite"AT"! Is there another "marker" to make more posoitive ID? In the clear positioning of the "A", the second "A" is AT the denticle, and the FIRST is just the opposite. Now, with the position(s) "not" exactly "on", neither is useful as a marker. The '48's are following this trend.
Dick Edited by livingdinasaur
01/29/2008 11:50 pm
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I've never run into a '49 that I couldn't decide. But, since you have the same books as I do...it would help to see pics! I'll give you my opinion. I'm sure you have seen this:  One challenge I've encountered is when the denticles are low relief and hard to distinguish. The '49 "to denticle" version also has a higher relief portrait, but it's tough to determine from that alone. Edited by KurtS
01/30/2008 03:07 am
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Right! I have three piles, and one is "dead-on", one is "ball-park", the third is "no way". the relief in the Portrait is very hard to tell. There must be another detail. "If it is there, I'll find it! When I do, I'll post it for those with the same dilemma.
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Ok man...I'm just trying to visualize "ball park".  Post pics if you can.  |
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I have a feeling you might as well combine the "ball park" and "no way" piles.
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pkay, here is the "ballpark:  It is like the age old of what is it: "tain't" Dick |
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Looks like I am going to have to go back thru those '49's, again. There were several of them that were very close, but I was lookin g for "dead-on" only, (ref. Charest CDROM), "slightly to the right'.
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The one you posted looks pretty good to me!
By the way Kurt, is there a '55 Dei variety?
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I also think the relief of the portrait could help you decide whether to re-examine those '49s. I recall looking through a pile of '49s and spotting a few ATs right away due simply to portrait relief--later confirmed by the denticle position of course!  Numismat, for '55s there are shoulder fold (low relief) and no shoulder fold (high relief) varieties. They are very hard to attribute by the shoulder fold because that quickly gets worn off. The best attribution is the position of the "I" in DEI. For NSF coins, that "I" points between denticles (again, not exactly in middle). The serifs in the obverse lettering are far more pronounced in the NSF, which I consider the secondary marker. The NSF is a very rare coin--congrats if you've found one!  Edited by KurtS
01/30/2008 4:16 pm
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Kurt, I'm not sure I could trust these eyes to be able to pick up on the high/low relief, alone. I can't focus on detail, because I can't see "dead-ahead". I may have to rely on the members to confirm, or deny, (that is after I get a photo application to work for me, without having to make 17 trips to the "Paperport", "Ulead", My documents, etc to finally get, (sometimes) a photo to pst! I liked my Largon Chameeon very well, but it won't work on XP vey well. Too many crashes. Of course it was designed for 98, which explains it's behavior.
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Wow, cool. Any other 1 cent varieties I should keep an eye out for?
I know about the 1965, though I have no idea how to tell large from small beads.
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Dick, yes...I almost relented on describing my methods because of your vision challenges. My eyes have also gotten tired using loupes, so now I often resort to using my QX5 microscope and view details on screen--it's sure an eye-saver!
Numismat, there are a few more. If you have an interest in Canadian coins, I'd recommend Pierre Charest's book "Canadian coins and their varieties" It has the most detail of all the references I use.
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Numismat, I'll second that motion. I use the 2005 Charlton Catalog, AND the 2008 CDROM, (Charest CAnadian coins, and their varieties). I am very new to CAnadian cents. the few I had were not checked until I got the catalogue, thanks to dahhit. Then I oedered the CDROM, altho I WANTED THE BOOK> Then O went looking for cents. One place imanaged to get 2100, instead of 1800, and the other place was 22 rolls of circulated, and 4 2007 BU, on a swap. Both have provento be a good investment. I have learned much, and anticipate learning much more! Here is the '55, NSF  Dick |
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Dick, hmmm...at first glance, this might be a 55 SF, alas.  Not to spoil things...I'll have a closer look at the photo later and post what I think--I'm hardly the expert, so feel free to contradict me |
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Kurt, Don't feel bad if you see an error on my part, and call it. thea is why I post them, to confirm my decision, or to find the error in my call. Ido the looking, but youdo the work!)-))
Later: I was looking at the 53-55 NSF/SF, and I brelieve I have them reversed! They should be BETWEEN, nit AT.
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01/30/2008 5:42 pm
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