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1883 0 VAM-1c2 Dollar

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Bought this coin in a lot today. Not really a VAM guy so wanted to find out from you guys if it has any extra value if its an R-7 rarity as described. Also what grade would you give it? Thanks Jerry. 1883-0-VAM-1c2-Dollar
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 Posted 01/07/2016  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS61 maybe 62 on a good day. As far as R7 and added value, I'm not really sure. I've never paid a premium for one but my understanding one may be more desirable if LDS with the die chip on the wing. I have one but it may not quite be LDS as the die chip is more of a die sink. Congrats on picking up one of my favorite VAM's.

Edit to add - Is the reverse die single or double clashed?
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 Posted 01/07/2016  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twodsonegf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I could be wrong, but I am seeing this as more of a V1C1. The 1C1 and 1C2 have two different Obverses. Check the 1C1 page on VW for my comparison. Just sent a 1C1 to VSS that came back 1C2. The M on the 1C2 is very distinct!


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I have one but it may not quite be LDS as the die chip is more of a die sink.

Though not a full LDS, I am still envious of this coin. It is the only one I have ever seen to show anything in that area aside from the plate photo. I think the LDS plated should be listed as a V1C3 and a true R-7 coin
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 Posted 01/07/2016  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twodsonegf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps I should clarify on the 1C1 that was sent to JB@VSS... he must have seen an M, but it is nothing like the M on the V-1C2. The 1C2 is also double clashed on the reverse. Please let us know what you find out after doing the necessary research ;)
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 Posted 01/07/2016  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the other info he had on this one said VAM 1-3 R-7
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The I number is the interest number given to the VAM as estimated by LVA at the time of discovery. I'm guessing that the actual interest may be higher now that the 1C is on the new WOW list. The same is true for the R number - the best estimate by LVA for the rarity at time of discovery.
The reason for my question regarding the number of Die clashes is that a single clash is likely to be the 1C1 die pairing (different obverse die than 1C2). There are some good photos on the 1C1 page to confirm the obverse die. http://www.vamworld.com/1883-O+VAM-1C1


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It is the only one I have ever seen to show anything in that area aside from the plate photo


I was thinking my cherry pick of a EDS VAM1C1 was my luckiest pick. Now I'm wondering if the semi LDS 1C2 was a better pick.
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 Posted 01/07/2016  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
trying to show some bigger pics. 1883-0-VAM-1c2-Dollar 1883-0-VAM-1c2-Dollar
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I'm pretty sure that's the 1C1 obverse die. I can just make out the die polish lines in the hair curl when I enlarge the image.
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 Posted 01/08/2016  09:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twodsonegf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I was thinking my cherry pick of a EDS VAM1C1 was my luckiest pick. Now I'm wondering if the semi LDS 1C2 was a better pick.


Those EDS 1C1s are amazing because of the PL fields - really adds a nice effect on the buffed areas! The 1C1 EDS is quite a treat indeed, though the 1C2 LDS is much more rare.
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 Posted 01/11/2016  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
so if you were listing this coin for sale how much would you ask? Found couple on e-bay that were MS62 and 63 for $199 to $219
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If this helps, I just got a ANACS MS63 1C2 for 200.00
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I just cherry picked a PCGS MS62 1C1 for $48 but the pictures were terrible and it was not attributed.
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 Posted 07/11/2016  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twodsonegf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
$200 for a true VAM-1C2 seems good! I probably would not pay half that for a VAM-1C1 in the same grade though. I'd pay more than either of those for a VAM-1C3 in decent shape though.
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 Posted 07/11/2016  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'd pay more than either of those for a VAM-1C3 in decent shape though



You and me both, Nate.
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 Posted 07/12/2016  3:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twodsonegf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, at least you've got that 1C2.5 Dave ;)
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 Posted 07/12/2016  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Hey, at least you've got that 1C2.5 Dave


True, but I would sure like a VLDS that falls between the example I have and that crazy 1C3. I was also dreaming about a VEDS 1C1 that has almost zero die sink. lol
Off to look at '83-O auctions.....
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