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 Posted 01/17/2016  06:59 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Biedercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
All you lowball fans, Here's an Ike you don't want to miss:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Clad-Eisenh...381516896165

Must have been the pocket piece of a very nervous person.

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 Posted 01/17/2016  07:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Justinwd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lol wow I've never seen an ike even close to being that smooth
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 Posted 01/17/2016  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LocalCoinGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mechanical removal, gotta be ..... Actually has two bids .... Someone is taking it home!
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 Posted 01/17/2016  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Mechanical wear ! IMHO .
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 Posted 01/17/2016  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Half to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why is that a lowball and not a cull? I can not make out a date.
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 Posted 01/17/2016  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Why is that a lowball and not a cull? I can not make out a date.

Exactly.
I believe the date OF a low-ball has to be recognizable.
I say "OF" rather than "ON" because some older coins can be dated by design elements.
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 Posted 01/17/2016  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biedercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In general terms, a "cull" is a lower condition coin you've replaced with a higher grade in your collection. A lowball is any coin that is so worn down that it can't really be graded by most standards.

Some people love them and even collect them. There's some distaste for those who use artificial, mechanical means of grinding coins down to emulate a lowball look (myself included).

Not a perfect definition, but it's as close as I can get at the moment.
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 Posted 01/17/2016  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Someone's pocket piece. Rim damage, no ID date, just a ungradable junk piece.
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 Posted 01/17/2016  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Concur that Ike is not a collectable lowball. It is beyond identification.


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I say "OF" rather than "ON" because some older coins can be dated by design elements.


Exactly ... I have a PCGS PO01 1921 Peace dollar that has no date ON the coin ... but as a single year type coin can be identified by the specific, unique design elements.

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 Posted 01/17/2016  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Half to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ahhh I see. I appreciate all the responses!

Lowballs are just one area that I have little knowledge of. lol

Thought I was going crazy for a minute.
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 Posted 01/17/2016  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This item has been in a rock tumbler for quite some time. If the piece were authentically worn down by hand, you wouldn't have all those jagged up rim nicks still sharp.
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I do admire authentic lowballs, but not mechanically worn coins. Yesterday I got an AG 1885-O Morgan which I plan to keep as a pocket piece until I can get it down to PO-01.
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 Posted 01/17/2016  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Totally altered coin. Garbage.
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I should let this go ... but in the spirit of the CCF mission of education I feel compelled to respond to the following comment -


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A lowball is any coin that is so worn down that it can't really be graded by most standards.


Not true ... and there are many lowball collectors of certified coins who appreciate the inherent beauty of an honestly circulated coin that has served our nations commerce.

The Ike shown in this thread was 'made' by mechanical abrasion ... it is not an honest coin and not IMHO worthy of serious consideration other than as an curiosity.

On the other hand ... there are many lowballs certified by the top TPG as problem free examples. Many of us (myself included) can appreciate the story to be told of honest PO01 or FR02 coins ... they hold the secrets of our nations commerce.

True lowballs are absolutely gradable ... I have many of them.

David
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 Posted 01/19/2016  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Regardless of how it got that way, it is still an Eisenhower dollar. Plenty of reason for some love.
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 Posted 01/20/2016  03:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only person that will ever love this coin ever again would be Jbuck.
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