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1946 Newfoundland 5c Doesn't Look Right To Me

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1946c-Newfo...AOSw5dNWlDmC
pictures are blurry I could be wrong but I think this one looks fishy, what do you think?
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 Posted 01/18/2016  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I always hate spending that much on a coin without certification. I'm just not sure on this one.
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 Posted 01/18/2016  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin and the date don't look quite right to me but, not sure..
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 Posted 01/18/2016  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pokermandude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks fake to me. Hard to tell with those poor pictures. I suspect the photos are poor on purpose.
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I was staring at this coin for awhile a little earlier this week... the picture is aweful... the 9 is the digit that looks odd... I think I will have to look at MM's pictures to see if there's any other clues that present themself
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Just spent the last 20 minutes looking at the markers for the '46 from BT and HK.... all I can say is that the pictures are so lousy that I cannot conclusively say one way or the other...
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I'm going to say it looks legit. I don't see anything wrong with it, looks well struck, sharp devices from what I can see, no mushiness in devices.

Though I do see something wonky on the mark above the "c" mint mark.

Pretty sneaky if it's not legit, bad pics, putting it in that old flip from the 60's, while those staples look brand new?

Anyways, I believe it's genuine, but who knows nowadays.
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01/18/2016 8:59 pm
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My humble opinion is avoid. I do agree that the photos do look blurry/fuzzy.

The "T" in "CENT" on the reverse, the stem of the letter T is not that straight. Edit here for clarity.

Take a closer look at obverse, the "R" in "DEI GRA.", part of it looks missing. The P in "IMP" does not look proportional to its neighboring letters, compare to what I see in the other Newfoundland 1946 5 cent examples in the following links,

http://www.coincatalogue.ca/index2....ils_menu=no#

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1946c-Newfou...AOSwhcJWOo8z



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Thesifu is right the "t" doesn't flare out as it should, but again those pictures, geesh. I'm still leaning towards genuine, I'm ok with the other letters, the light leg in the "r" is an acceptable anomaly, it happens in all sorts of genuine coins.
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Out of character compared to past sold items, I checked a lot of sold items and only 2 where slightly over $100 everything else well under. You would think good quality pics would be in line for this ad being the most expensive item the seller's sold, that I've seen.
As for the coin I wouldnt touch it with a 10 foot pole based on those pics and some prior communication with that seller. Maybe ask for better pics, I did notice he takes poor pics when he's not using a photo from the net or his stock.
A couple things about the coin dont look right but that could change with better pics.
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Be nice to just see better pictures, then I think we could tell. Unfortunately the fakes are getting so darned good now. Over on the U.S. Boards some of the coins shown never fully get figured out weather genuine or not until graded, early wheat pennies inparticular.
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Can't be certain due the out of focus pics but the coin is likely genuine.The date, which is usually a giveaway for the counterfeits of this coin, appears to be the right width, height, font etc.
Best to stay away from this one though.
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Blurry pics,

... and the zoom is not offered on such a tough piece.

I never understand that..
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Legit or not,
I wouldn't touch it with GSP.
Cost over 100.00 for shipping.
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Why wouldn't he have taken it out of the 2x2 and shown clearer pics, I'd be afraid of this one.
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Coin looks legit to me . Would not buy it though . Most buyers for these will step up and want an UNC example certified.
Personally this is one of my top ten Canada, and related areas pieces that falls into the overrated and overpriced area, right up there with the 1948 Dollar.
Every one of the alleged 2041 minted is probably still around along with a few thou more. Truth is no one really knows the true mintage figure , due to poor record keeping at the RCM back in the day.
I have handled at least ten of these in the last 40 years and can say with dead certainty there is more than one die pairing.
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