Yes, we do need pictures to be able to help you out. However, from your descriptions, one of each of your pairs of coins may be "proof" coins. Proofs are the endpoint of a process intended for collectors. With proofs, fields are shinier, raised portions are sharper, and there's more precision in every step that's done. They sometimes find their way into circulation.
If a coin does not have a mint mark, such as the one you described in you second examples, that coin is from Philadelphia. Generally, coins without mint marks are Philadelphia.
For now, try to get the best pics you can with what you have and we'll get more feedback from the crowd.
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If a coin does not have a mint mark, such as the one you described in you second examples, that coin is from Philadelphia. Generally, coins without mint marks are Philadelphia.
For now, try to get the best pics you can with what you have and we'll get more feedback from the crowd.



















