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France 1 Sol 1785r

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 Posted 01/23/2016  10:01 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can anyone please explain why this coin looks as it does?
The upper portion appears as normal relief, but under that it's sort of "filled" or "flat".

France-1-Sol-1785r
France-1-Sol-1785r
Edited by Albert
01/23/2016 10:09 am
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 Posted 01/23/2016  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like some sort of Cud (retained Cud? not sure of the specific terminology). Basically the die was breaking apart.

This coin would fit well in the recently created Terminal Die States thread (if it allows non-US coins, anyway).
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 Posted 01/23/2016  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, I guess I need to learn about Cuds and terminal die states (new language to me). I actually have two similar coins of the same type. I imagine the reverse die was broken but the split or cracked halves were held together some how and the mint continued to crank out coins I suppose? Reasonable guess?
Thanks,
Albert
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 Posted 01/23/2016  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK I get it!
Thanks so much!
I visited Cuds on coins dot com and found similar images of split or shattered dies on foreign coins.
This coin was sent to me by a guy claiming it was a fake. I doubted that, but I could not explain why it looked like it does (until now). Now I understand the mechanics of what happens to the die and see the results on my coins.
Albert
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