1980--D Half: Is There Such A Thing As A Pre-Retained Cud?

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Pete2226 Pillar of the Community United States 3330 Posts	Posted 01/25/2016 1:48 pm I think this could not be called a Retained Cud because the crack to the south never quite makes it to the rim.The crack to the north appears to go to the rim, but can only be faintly seen. Is there such a thing as a pre-retained Cud? Report this Post to the Staff

Adam_E Pillar of the Community United States 4846 Posts	Posted 01/25/2016 2:29 pm Well a Retained Cud is essentially just a die crack that extends from one part of the rim to another, so any die crack could technically be called a pre-retained Cud. However, die breaks generally don't show up in straight lines like on your coin, they crack in curves and follow the devices(look at some Morgan dollar VAM's for some great examples of this). they also usually extend outwards from the rim, especially on modern coins. I would think that on the coin you have, the die was scratched, not cracked. Notice how the line stops when it reaches the T, if it were a crack it would travel around or over the T and continue on. also the second part of the line is extremely faint which is a common characteristic of scratches, not breaks. Edited by Adam_E 01/25/2016 2:39 pm Report this Post to the Staff
BlueSolo Pillar of the Community United States 740 Posts	Posted 01/25/2016 3:33 pm I've seen Retained Cuds on this area before: http://cuds-on-coins.com/retained-c...964-present/ Yours is a crack that looks like it doesn't quite make it to the rim yet Report this Post to the Staff
Pete2226 Pillar of the Community United States 3330 Posts	Posted 01/25/2016 3:38 pm Thanks BlueSolo - I saw that one - it gave me the idea for asking my question this way. This one is obviously a crack coming off the left bar of T, but so diminished continuing (it does reach the rim, but is barely visible doing so) and also diminished coming off the right bar left me wondering? Report this Post to the Staff
Agrippa Pillar of the Community United States 663 Posts	Posted 01/25/2016 4:28 pm The "T" and "Y" are notorious locations for die cracks on Kennedy halves. Most of the ones I find are on 1971 coins. Cool find! Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 01/25/2016 6:43 pm I call those pre-cuds. I see them a lot on 1983 LMC's. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
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