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Really? NGC Gave This A 64?

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 Posted 01/26/2016  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Right t-Bop. Drives me nuts when people think a bag mark(s) or toning, or a scratch or a rim ding reduces an uncirculated coin below MS-60. The reason it's a 60 is because it has mucho problems. The reason it's NOT AU-58, or ANY circulated grade is because it's still uncirculated regardless of those problems. You might think the coin is ugly, and most 60's (or even 61's) are ugly but that doesn't mean an uncirculated coin is going to drop below 60.
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 Posted 01/26/2016  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pending reverse pic, I think it deserves a 64.
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I agree the chin marks have nothing to do with mint state status. The markers for a circulated coin are friction on the high points and loss of original luster in the open fields. The obverse appears to show a distinct area of gray discoloration from below the eye to the chin, with lesser "grayness" on the neck and in the obverse field below the chin. Absent an in-person examination of the coin those discolored areas say "friction" which in turn means the coin is not mint state. Only an opinion of course!
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thats why you stick to the general rule of buying the coin not the slab. The fields are clear but yes the shave cuts are distracting.
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At the TPG's a slight trace of wear does not immediately disqualify a coin from receiving a MS grade.
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63, but I think the right field on the obverse caught the grader's attention, hence the reason why it graded a 64.
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I think the overall quality of the strike and the elvis lip got her to 64.
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