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Really? NGC Gave This A 64?

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Looks like an NGC slab to me
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How does the reverse look?
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Better be a perfect reverse or its MS63 for me...Not buying at 64
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That is an NCG slab .... not PCGS. Are you feeling it is overgraded or undergraded?

The very significant contact marks on Ms. Liberty chin and mouth are in a prime focal spot and severely detract from the coins appeal and technical grade.

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Please show us a photo of reverse so we can make proper evaluation .
As said ,hits on chin is a definite deal killer for most of us. ,
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Looks like she cut herself shaving. :(
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Looks like an NGC slab to me


Yes indeed it is. Looks like I was being very absent minded when posting this. I'll have a picture of the reverse up in the evening, however, the marks on the chin, a very prominent area of the obverse, are so deep that I don't see how they would've arrived at this conclusion. A 64 is a near gem grade, and even if it is nothing special to see in a morgan, it still means a fairly clean coin.
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I don't see those marks keeping it from being a 64.
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No way a 64 with those chin marks .... IMO
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I suppose a Morgan could earn a 64 even with those chin hits. However, it should have excellent luster and eye appeal to compensate. This piece has rather diffuse luster and I see evidence of friction on the cheek. Based on these images I'd call it an AU-58 slider.
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It seems like they grade 21 Morgans differently than the rest of the series sometimes. Like they are graded on a curved scale because of the typical bagginess of the issue.

The op coin is still a 63 in my opinion. At this point the reverse could only lower the grade not raise it.
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That looks like a scan and I imagine the luster is much better than what we see.
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I'd buy this one at MS-63 price.
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If it was my money being spend, I would agree that this might have seen a couple pockets and is an AU-58. Those shave cuts on her chin are unbecoming of MS64 money regardless.
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We can't call it AU-58 as we haven't seen the reverse yet. but for me I don't care what it grades because I would never be interested in a 21 Morgan with that chin.
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