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1931 10 Cent BU Damaged?

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 Posted 01/30/2016  5:13 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add XWLCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This coin is an absolute beauty aside from these deep circular scratches on the kings face.

1931-10-Cent-BU-Damaged?

1931-10-Cent-BU-Damaged?

1931-10-Cent-BU-Damaged?

Is this damage caused at the mint? Or did this happen post mint.

I'm putting orders together for ICCS and CCCS. I prefer ICCS but I do not want the comment to say "damaged" if its some kind of known mint error than il put it with my CCCS group of coins.
Any thoughts?
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 Posted 01/30/2016  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not an expert, but it looks like PMD do me. It would probably get some kind notation, too bad.
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 Posted 01/30/2016  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Quatchi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've never seen anything like that before, I'd guess it to be a shameful case of PMD. Poor coin!
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 Posted 01/30/2016  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I agree that it's damage, not caused at the mint.

Too bad as it looked to be an ms64.
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 Posted 01/30/2016  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XWLCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's the problem... Looking at it, its extremely lustrous. Just a beauty. But the circular indented scratches are in the way of being a gem or near gem quality coin.. I don't know as much about the minting process as I'd like to know, but I can say this, those circular scratches happened after striking. The way they are raised above the design is very clear. The fields on both sides are near flawless...it is an extremely lustrous coin showing no signs of tampering other than the circular marks on his face and body.
I don't see how someone could have tampered with this post mint and left no further damage. But as I said I'm not sure too much on the minting process so I don't know if its even possible to have this done at the mint before it was bagged up and shipped out.
Surely there is some kind of explanation here that wouldn't involve PMD.
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 Posted 01/30/2016  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could be counter damage. Really a shame. A sweetie otherwise.
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 Posted 01/30/2016  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Everest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A Struck (Thru) coin? An error caused by a foreign object that got between the
dies and the planchet when a coin was struck. A common Struck (Thru) error is a
piece of wire that leaves an indentation that is usually mistaken for a scratch.
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What a beautiful coin otherwise, so very, very odd. Looking at it from a distance, the curved line, if it were complete, would form a complete circle in precisely the centre of the coin.

Someone here posted pics of an old Mint metal coin holder a few months ago. I'm the early 30s I'm not sure if paper rolls were used or not. Otherwise I wonder if the gouges had anything to do with this particular coin sitting at the end of that sort of metal coin holder?

Nope, can't find that thread. But the same type of metal tube coin holder is mentioned here:
https://goccf.com/t/239146
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01/31/2016 12:14 am
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I think this damage is caused by an old metal dime holder. Basically, it is a metal tube with a slot on the top where you can push dimes in. When there are 50 dimes, you turn a screw on one end and it pushes all the coins out. The screw impacts the coin on the end and can damage it.

I have one of these holders, but I don't use it any more (for obvious reasons).
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