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Valued Member
United States
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I just purchased this ebay item (link below). I'd like to know anything about it (who is the figure and what is he holding, the initials CES, etc.). I broke all the rules with this purchase,  including (I'm sure) paying too much for it. The Seller wasn't able to provide any help. There's something about the design that tweeked my CAS ( Coin Acquisition Syndrome)  . ANY help would be appreciated. Jack http://www.ebay.com/itm/1780-Br-Lun...p=true&rt=nc*** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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Valued Member
United States
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I believe it is called the Wildman design. The figure is a giant, and he is holding onto a tree.
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United States
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Scheide Munze means fractional money or small change. I'm not quite sure what CES stands for though. Overall, I think you got a very cool coin. You probably paid a little too much for it, but I don't know much about the values of these coins.
And the figure is a mythical character from German folklore. Kinda like the god of the woodlands, I think.
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 United States
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in my Krause catalog, looks like CES are initials of the designer Christoph Engelhard Seidensticker (C.E.S.) at the Zellerfeld Mint from 1779-1786
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 United States
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Dith Pran - Thanks so much for replying to my question. You've given me the first little bits of information. I hope there will be others who'll contribute as well. I'm very grateful for your help. The figure does, indeed, look like a Wildman!
World foreign coins are not the main focus of my collections, although I do have many world Crown coins that I really love. This coin just jumped out at me and I couldn't resist. I have a real feeling that there's a good story attached to it, if I can just get myself pointed in the right direction. Jack
PS - Thanks also to CCF! Where else could I go with such a question?
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Valued Member
United States
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Thanks Fuzz. If those are the designers initials, Victor Brenner was really treated unfairly! That's great information and it helps a lot. I'm going to see what I can find out about Mr. Seidensticker. Does Krause say if it's a German State coin? I was wondering about the letters BR that precede the word "Luneburg" (which I'm guessing is the name of a German State or town) Jack |
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United States
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Fully name of this German duchy is "Brunswick-Luenburg"
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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The Electorate of Brunswick-Luneberg was, of course, the German state from which the British kings from George I onwards came from, and the kings of Britain continued to rule this state up until the reign of Queen Victoria, who could not inherit it because the laws of succession there allowed for male inheritors only. Though it does not actually appear on the coin, this coin was actually issued in the name of George III. The higher-denomination coins bear the king's portrait and titles and some bear a very close resemblance to their British counterparts. There was a neighbouring duchy, owned by a different branch of the family; this state was known as "Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel" and on coins from there, the Wildman faces the other way. eBay example. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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United States
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Thank you! This is great information. I was fascinated with an article in this months (Feb) Numismatist, titled "Family Feud" (page 35). The article was extremely well thought out, and now I'm thinking that this coin might be part of that history (George III).
SAP and dpenciner - HUGE help. Thank you both! Jack
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United States
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The wildman design is one that is always in demand, particularly in the silver denominations or crown sizes. The pfennig is the smallest (and cheapest) way to acquire the design. Over the years, there are many subtle variations to the design. Here is one in my collection.  |
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