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Bedrock of the Community
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It doesn't mention what power it is. I like the infinite zoom scopes with a 3.5-35X magnification range.  But these are hard to find with this setup. Seems like they have moved to the ones without the stand now. Here is something that would work for coins. A bit too much power, but you could get a shot at what you wonder about sometimes. http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5X-45X-Zo...AOSwX~dWnrNVEdited by coop
02/12/2016 1:22 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I feel y'all on the eyesight and especially the thought of losing it being in this hobby we love! One corneal transplant at age 28(46 come April  )and one that is probably overdue...vision thank god was 20/20 after transplant but has recently deteriated again-but with the advances in science I believe I'm a long way from losing it(oh and I also highly recommend sudz and his suggestion and I've also purchased happily from him) Edited by Slamnbass
02/12/2016 1:34 pm
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Over the past several years, I've had access to some excellent stereoscopes. Most units run $1500 or more. At a startup I was part of, they gave away the furniture and lots of equipment...but not the stereoscope. With a setup like that, I think all of us would be able to search all day and never feel it in the eyes. Originally, I was looking for systems that had tons of magnification. In the end, I do a majority of my searching using my magnified lamp and modest magnification. I do closer looks with my AmScope at 20X. Almost never at 40X. I think members might have it right. Search at 10X and enjoy the finds! |
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Thank you all, I did contact Sudz and Still Lookin on their offers - Thank you very much! How great is this? - I know I am going to be getting the real things and I am so thrilled to be able to see a legit DDO in hand. I can't wait to get them. |
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It will open a whole new world. BTW this is an illness to which I do not know a cure.
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I just ordered a 10x loupe off of ebay only 5.00, we'll see how it goes - I am not sure with my vision if I am going to be able to see anything good from it. But, it sure would be nice if I could sit comfortably some place looking at coins instead of having to be planted at the computer desk so I can use the USB magnifier. No cure needed here, I am just getting started and with a few new tools and these DDO's coming my way - it is going to be a whole new journey. |
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I am going to have a great day  .  I just my coins from Sudz. 4 that he identified and 4 for me to figure out. So for practice I am going to try to identify which way I think the DD is going and list any possible die markers that may be relevant. He marked which DDO or DDR it was already so I can just see how I did - when I look them up. From there I will try to figure out on my own the other 4 coins and I will post them here for your guidance. |
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Quote:I am going to have a great day . I just my coins from Sudz. 4 that he identified and 4 for me to figure out. So for practice I am going to try to identify which way I think the DD is going and list any possible die markers that may be relevant. He marked which DDO or DDR it was already so I can just see how I did - when I look them up. From there I will try to figure out on my own the other 4 coins and I will post them here for your guidance. I told ya. George is one of the "good guys" of this hobby. Have a blast, and please take your time. A fine wine must be sipped, NOT gulped. |
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I know it is so hard to resist the GULP.
So, just to see if I am looking at the coins correctly.
For DD's the first punch is the bottom punch, and that is the one that I look for the direction on?
The first one that I am looking at from George is 1972 1DO-008 WDDO-008.
Just using the regular eye scope I see the following:
On the IGWT (I would assume the whole thing is doubled but this is what I am picking up without using the computer USB magnifier) just want to enjoy & learn using just the eye scope for my first step.
On the IN & GOD I see it going SW (bottom punch)
On the RUS also SW and I can also see the extra serif (if that is the correct word) on the bottom of the S.
Liberty I see that as N maybe a little NE
in the date I can only make out 2 with the extra flip on the tail of the 2 going N maybe NE.
I couldn't pickup any die scratches, gauges or anything that fine with just the scope.
Please let me know if I am on the right track.
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Pillar of the Community
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On doubled dies there really is no top or bottom "punch" as the doubling was caused while the working die was made. The working die would be flat before it came in contact with the die that was used to create it. On that die, the design would be like you see it on a coin, with all the devices raised. Now it is hubbed with the blank working die to form a mirror image into the working die. Meaning all the devices would appear backwards and incuse on the working die. During that hubbing process the die might shift ever so slightly as it is rehubbed with the other die. However much the shift is will determine how the doubling appears. The larger the shift the further the spread. Like the dramatic 1955 DDO. It had a BIG shift. Hope this makes sense. |
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If you get a chance read this http://doubleddie.com/58201.htmlOnce you have an understanding of how the minting process works, you will understand what makes doubled dies so special. |
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Thanks Seal, your wording along with that page are beginning to make some sense to me. I have read that page so many times, and just couldn't grasp the process. I am doing better today with it along with what you wrote and even as I read this morning things from coop on my other posts with the pictures he usually puts up started popping into my head so I actually think I am starting to get the understanding of it. I still need to read it many more time and I think go back to some of my old posts for he responses that I received and maybe that will help put it in a better perspective for me.
So from what I understand right now: it is the not working die (that the coin is struck from) that the doubling occurs. The doubling is actually in the working hub (raised) that created the working die (incuse), which is then transferred to the planchet.
Did I get this part right now?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Here is a guide how the working dies are created:  |
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Pillar of the Community
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It happens ON the working die WHILE it is being made(hubbed) with the other die. If I remember correctly, and Coop has an image showing this, there are actually three or four times that hubbing takes place prior to the final hubbing which makes the dobled die. It is THAT process in which is the final doubling that creates the doubled die that we all search for. This means that the doubling would only show on coins struck with that, now doubled, working die. If it happened on earlier hubbings that make the dies that are used to turn around to make the working dies, that doubling would appear on several of the working dies. Making it much more common, which is what we are referring to when we say "master die doubling."
LOL, Coop beat my response with the diagram I have been scowerring my PC for.
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02/17/2016 10:35 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Sandy,
May I suggest that when you get to the 1995-P that you start by looking at "LIBERTY". I think the hub doubling is easiest to see there.
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