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Here is an very interesting and quite unusual lamination error in this 1859 cent.. I have not ID'd it yet ..but there could be something going on in the 9.. Looks like a thin strip of some type of fiber got mixed in with the planchets and ended up as a fine thin strip embedded in the cent during the processing. The crack continues up the left side and I'm feeling that the fiber piece also continues up in the interior of that cent. The cent was advertised as a complete cent with only 2 fine cracks showing.. ..but it arrived with that squarish piece missing and now showing an exposed piece of "something" inside that cent. What do you think that it is..and how might this have happened.. ? okiecoiner has put forward a very plausible explanation in an earlier contact .. All views appreciate..        |
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What do you use to get such nice pictures?I know it's off topic, but I would like to take better pics. Thanks
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Maybe a wood splinter got under the lamination? Perhaps the fibre can be carbon dated  It's really cool though and those are great photos. |
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A true woody..  somebody was going to say it...seriously though it looks cool and darn near looks like it was struck in, just a guess is that a nikon D-80 just a guess with homework Edited by Alexer
02/12/2016 6:19 pm
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As an addendum to what I told Devlec before .. it may even be a piece of asbestos material for handling the slag, ingots and rollers.
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Your right okiecoiner it does appear to run under the metal.
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is that a nikon D-80 just a guess with homework Very nice indeed...!! Yes it is,.. but with a macro added lens. If you have the "shakes"..well these pics won't happen.. Shoot 10 pics and keep 2 is my golden rule with coins.. Quote:
As an addendum to what I told Devlec before .. it may even be a piece of asbestos material Thanks again okiecoiner..!!..The fibrous look certainly has me guessing also. ..and that different colour to it..  |
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Now we have planchets made of bronze, brass, and wood.
Most interesting.
I hate these vanilla 59's.
They are very difficult to attribute.
doug
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Could it be 481 48 + J7. The loop 2 looks similar. DEVLEC, is there any doubling at the bottom of the 9?
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..but it arrived with that squarish piece missing and now showing an exposed piece of "something" inside that cent.
so was the missing piece in the package? |
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Sadly,..it was not in the package. It was roughly taped without protection to the interior of a card. It would have been fine if it had been in a 2x2 or plastic slip. I think that the seller picked at the piece after seeing something there. Good News..Bad News... The bad side is the small piece is gone.. The good news is that "if" it had been complete as this pic shows,..I would never have known about the strange lamination going on underneath as the coin would have looked like this last pic.... So I'm still a happy camper with this one..  |
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Could it be 481 48 + J7. The loop 2 looks similar. DEVLEC, is there any doubling at the bottom of the 9? Thanks Phil..That could be the perfect match..  I do think that there is something going on with the 9.. More pics later.. |
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What an incredibly interesting find! A great surprise to find something so interesting was hidden beneath the piece of missing lamination. In 1859 when this penny was minted, who can imagine the working conditions within The Royal Mint but it certainly woukd be classified as primative compared to modern standards. Sawdust covered dirt floors, wooden work benches.....? |
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okiecoiner feels that there are 9 of them out there..
As there were ~ 9 million 59's..and this might be one in a million..
Now Jim's example explains about a circular crack from leaf 12 over to leaf 13.. Does that mean that it could represent yet another interesting lamination (a la.. okiecoiner's series ...  )..) ..or maybe close to what I have here..? That might be a fun PC59-481 to add here and compare to.. |
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Posted 02/12/2016 6:05 pm
