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1921 Morgan Arrow Head Scribbles

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I just got a new digital microscope and I found this on one of my coins. I have already identified this coin as a 1921P VAM 27A. However this was not part of the description on Vamworld. Has anyone seen this before, and is it common? The top arrowhead only, has die scratches in it.



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 Posted 02/07/2008  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ocsjr2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those are polishing lines from the mint trying to clean up the die. Must have been something in the arrow point that they wanted to remove and the cure was worst then the bite. I've run into this on some of the clashed Morgans before and sometimes its even used as an identifier. With the new scope you'll start finding more of this. Guess they had "Take your child to work days" back then too!
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Just a thought, but could this be what happens when they clean out a filled die? Does anyone know of a 1921 P with a filled die in this location? I haven't researched this it's just a shot in the dark.
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That's a standard feature of the D1 (17 berries) 1921 reverse. I don't know if it's from the master hub, but I've seen that on every D1 reverse I've ever held.
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I have since found it on 3 of my other coins. I figuered out quickly that it was fairly common. I have noticed however that the first coin was a wide reed, and the others are not. I don't understand how the different reed styles occur. Can anyone explain them to me or direct me to a good source?
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It seems that the Philadelphia Mint, which was responsible for producing all the dies and collars used by all mints, established reed counts arbitrarily by mint. Over the years, 21 different reed counts between 157 and 194 reeds can be found on Morgan dollars. The Mint produced its own swedging tools to force the reeding into the collar. Just like dies, it took more than a few collars to produce all the Morgans struck, so multiple collars were used in each year. It's believed that the process used to produce the swedging tools allowed for a 1-reed difference between examples in a given batch; that can account for some of the differences in reed counts.
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