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Can someone explain some terms to me? I tried to use to glossary to let left but it will only load half way and crash. I got a bunch of Indian head pennies and am not sure what to look for.
Small date vs large date.
V. D. B
I guess that's it but any other advice would be great. Thank you!
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To start with US coins are cents; British coins are pennies.
VDB is the designers initials. Victor David Brenner. On the reverse of the 1909 cent when released the initials were at the bottom and the public at the time proclaimed the initials to be too prominently displayed so they were removed. The 1909 S VDB is a highly sought after coin very pricey$. small date and large date I believe has to do with the position of certain digits in some dates being either higher or lower in regard to the other numbers in the date. someone else more knowledgeable than me will be along shortly to explain this further and better than I can.
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I don't know the Indian head series all that well but you can definitely look up the key dates online google Indian Head cent worth and post pics of any coins you have questions about and we can help you more
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Sorry, I'm not looking at Indian heads, they are wheaties
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Wheat cents (Lincoln Wheat cents) makes more sense since the terms you mentioned were Lincoln Cent terms.
What years/mints you got?
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I would suggest familiarizing yourself with this site http://www.lincolncentresource.com/index.html

BTW, calling them pennies is perfectly acceptable and has been the colloquial term since they were first minted in 1793.
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67 cents variety of dates of lower quality, vg mostly. Found 3 rainbow looking cents (27s, 28d & 40s) of fine quality. A 43 XF. And a 1909 V.D.B VF.
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Thank you for the Lincoln site, great stuff. After looking through all these cents I think I'm ready to go back through the rolls I have in the safe.
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Upon more inspection the 1928d has a 17 degree die rotation. My first rotated die.
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Penny is a perfectly acceptable name for the US Cent, just as Nickel is for the 5-cent piece. While they are slang, they are commonly accepted by society.

V.D.B. is the initials of the designer Victor D. Brenner. These initials were displayed on the reverse of 1909 and 1909-S Lincoln pennies until an uproar caused them to be removed. This caused 6 variations of 1909 pennies, 1909 and 1909-S Indian Head, 1909 and 1909-S VDB Lincoln and 1909 and 1909-S non-VDB Lincoln pennies.

The initials were added back a few years later on the bottom of the bust on the obverse.

Several years had different size dates, some more noticeable than others. Many collector books have separate slots for these and that stokes collectors even more. While almost every year could have some variation in date sizes, the ones most noteworthy are heavily collected.
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Penny is a perfectly acceptable name for the US Cent
Although I personally avoid saying penny, this statement is totally correct. Almost everyone in America knows what you mean when you say penny, just as they do nickel. Even the mint uses the term.
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Right. And if you buy a box of cents, it's likely to say "$25 Pennies" or something similar.
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I have been collecting coins for so long, that I never even thought that "VDB" was "jargon".
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Ok, If I could I would change the topic to "cent terms, that are known by everyone but me, these terms are not jargon but everyday terms"
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Three more cents I found. An 1880 cent of less than or equal to FR02 grade,a 44 cent with great color and AU grade, and a 1937 cent with some odd coloration on half of it, 17degree die rotation, and XF grade.
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Ok, If I could I would change the topic to "cent terms, that are known by everyone but me, these terms are not jargon but everyday terms"
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