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Need Authentification!! Brockaged And Double Denomination?

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 Posted 02/22/2016  9:00 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tolch123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,

I just purchased this error coin from a local dealer at a show. He said his specialty wasn't error coins, and he sold it to me for $10. Initially, I thought it was just cool looking, but I think it may be valuable. If this is real, I think it would be classified as a "Brockaged"/"Double Denomination".

Attached are some photos, and I'd love it if someone could provide it's authenticity, and if it's real, it's possible worth!

Thank you,
Mickey

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 Posted 02/22/2016  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
. Your coin is not a error, it is a vise job and known as post mint damage ( PMD)...
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 Posted 02/22/2016  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slamnbass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
and thats why you see rim damage on the reverse rim also
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02/22/2016 9:24 pm
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 Posted 02/22/2016  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnDeVito to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The text from the dime is reversed. This is clear indication that it was not stamped by the die of a dime denomination on the nickel planchet. I can't even imagine how a full nickel obverse could be struck with a second die with a full dime reverse stamping the same planchet (which could not have happened here since the devices on the dime reverse are mirror image). IMHO, this is the case of a dime being pressed into a nickel and leaving the impression.

I could be wrong, but I'm thinking it isn't anything that happened at the mint. The experts here will surely correct me if I am mistaken.
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 Posted 02/22/2016  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree: vise job. I'm suspicious of the comment that he wasn't an error expert. At least you aren't out big money Mickey. Welcome to the forums!!
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 Posted 02/22/2016  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Vise job. Interestingly enough, I just saw another thread about one of these. You're down $9.95, but as Rackster said, it's not too bad. Keep looking!
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 Posted 02/22/2016  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OcalaFlorida to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

tolch123 to CCF



I bought a very similar vise job when I started collecting to I think I took a $40 hit

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 Posted 02/23/2016  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NDCENT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a good educational piece.Welcome to the forum.
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 Posted 02/23/2016  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also the area that should be raised are now incuse. (Top of the torch)

Also the rim should not show on a second strike example:
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The edge of the die does not contain the rim, the rim is struck up during the strike against the collar.
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 Posted 02/24/2016  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
<<The edge of the die does not contain the rim, the rim is struck up during the strike against the collar.>>

This is incorrect. The rim that forms during the strike is called the "design rim" because it is part of the design. It is generated by coin metal rising up into a rim gutter located at the edge of the die face. A design rim can, in fact, form during an off-center strike, although it is uncommon.
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 Posted 02/24/2016  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the clarification Mike.
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