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Congratulations O-F. The last pics were better, but I still wasn't sure.
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REF: coop has a ton of knowledge on picture taking!
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He does, and he knows coins just as well. No one is right all the time. Those first pics were not the best to go on.
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 That's what makes this forum so great. We can all agree to dis-agree until we can hopefully get it right. * At least most of time anyway! (LOL!) |
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So I mentioned the notching, but also see machine damage as well. Both can happen on the same coin. But when looking at the CPG book Fifth edition, page 182, the hub doubling is towards the south. Note how just the bottoms show the spread. Yours is from a different die in a different direction. The second set of images showed me more of this on the 'T'.
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There is also notching (albeit slight) on the inner part of the bottom of the G in GOD.
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Oh my gosh, you can have an actual DDO and MD on the same coin and on the same side? I am never going to figure this out. You all are amazing. |
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Yes it can happen to the best of them:  I would not buy one with the MD, but if it was there, I would save it. (but that is just me) |
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coop, you are incredible with your knowledge of coins & machinery used in producing them - do you know all the parts of these machines? If you were ever into Star Trek - Do like Spock does - and send us all an INTERNET Mind Meld.  |
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As coop said, yes it does happen. Here are 2 pics of a 1922P Peace dollar that I have which is also the VAM-4 Top 50 Peace dollar. The designer's initials are doubled and that is MD on the L in LIBERTY.   Edited by chuckster 125
02/26/2016 11:21 am
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I have images from the San Francisco mint. I've always wanted to go to the Denver Mint to check it out. (never made it yet) Just learning about what steps a die, blanks/planchets, annealing process, striking, ejection and other things helps me figure out if it is a mint error, what caused it. It there is nothing in the minting process and it was done outside the mint also come into play.
The best way to learn is to look at the first post and look at the images and see what you think happened to the coin in question. Then don't read the other posts yet. Determine what you think happened to the coin. write it down if need be, and then go down to the other posts to see if you are right/wrong or see if others posting are right/wrong. Then you train your detective skills to identify what could have happened. Yes, sometimes I don't have the correct answer. We are all a work in progress. But I always try to explain what I see so that little bit of information can affect the posts of others as they grow in knowledge of this hobby.
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So the planchet is struck with the doubled working die and then it took a machine hit or bounce? Would the MD strike have happened first?
The '96" looks like a triplet - is there such a thing as a real TDO or TDR?
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02/26/2016 11:30 am
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The hub doubling is on the die. So each strike of that die will produce a doubled die. But during the strike the dies may have moved a bit or bounced during the strike altering the coin. So it if is a doubled die, it alters the doubled die (damages the devices). It is it a normal coin, it alters the coin (damages the devices).
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Yes there are TDO's and even Quadrupled Die Obverse. Just one example: 1964 D Kennedy half dollar has both. FS 50-1964D-103 and the FS-50 1964D-105. *1964 Proof JFK with accented hair has a Quadrupled Die Reverse FS50-1964-802 |
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