Are These Artificially Toned Silver Eagles? If So Is It A Scam? - Page 2

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stampvirgin Pillar of the Community United States 1247 Posts	Posted 02/29/2016 09:35 am I am asking other peoples opinions. It is possible to "AT" coin in a slab. I changed the title of the thread to be more of a question. Not looking to hatchet the guy, I am asking other peoples opinions. Report this Post to the Staff
Broken-Coin Pillar of the Community United States 1812 Posts	Posted 02/29/2016 09:50 am My late Brother and Coin Dealer from the mid 1980's to around 2005, would always look for a angle to try and scam anyone he could (and be proud of it).. Reading this thread, my minds-eye flashes back to 2001, when he made connections with Coin Doctors that would teach him how to improve coin surfaces, and sold my brother a Coin Toning Set with instructions recommeding different types of toning for Bust Coinage and Morgans.. The toned coins here look like his work.. He had fooled a lot of people with his salesman's skills (he could sell snow in Alaska & sand in the Dessert), that being said, he went to far when he Toned over 20 ASE's with the same color contrast as his Morgan dollars.. I recall how this smooth talker stumbled over his words when he was asked "How can a new Eagle have the same Natural Toning as your Morgans"... I spent a few years with him on the Coin Show Circuit sharing a Spot (I was buying & selling errors & Broken Bank Notes) so as not to interfere with his Numismatic interest.. I can tell you that behind the scenes, I have witnessed numerous Dealers that shared my late brothers ill habits in making a profit at all costs... In the end it all fell apart the last 8 years of his life... I believe it was Karma Report this Post to the Staff
roundman72 New Member United States 31 Posts	Posted 02/29/2016 10:29 am ok so I went back and the seller does not say natural toned or artificial toning. his return policy protects himself. he has a bunch of 2010 toned coins. I would be suspect but he does not say natural or artificial. I would no accuse him of anything but as the saying goes if it looks too good to be true... Report this Post to the Staff
moxking Rest in Peace United States 17900 Posts	Posted 02/29/2016 11:15 am Over 1000 feedback, 100% top rated seller. He does have a rather large selection of toned coins, many bullseye. I agree that many different coins having near identical "art" toning probably indicates that the coins have had help getting that toning. He is also selling them without negative reviews. I wouldn't buy one, but I wouldn't go to the extreme of screaming scam, either. Report this Post to the Staff
Cascade Pillar of the Community United States 7390 Posts	Posted 02/29/2016 12:12 pm I've heard of poking a small hole in a slab to "gas" the coin to create artificial toning them resealing the pinhole. Although I've never seen varified examples so I can't speak to that plus I don't think gassing could only cause rim toning. Edited by Cascade 02/29/2016 1:38 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Cascade Pillar of the Community United States 7390 Posts	Posted 02/29/2016 12:13 pm That said though, dont let the date fool you. Silver eagles are highly prone to naturally toning very quickly in the right condions so the date is irrelevant Report this Post to the Staff
jerseyben Pillar of the Community United States 1211 Posts	Posted 02/29/2016 12:15 pm Jdmern gets it. There are indeed a growing number of dangerous threads like this one. Witch hunts with no evidence and worse yet, no argument to support the claims. Report this Post to the Staff
biokemist6 Bedrock of the Community United States 12437 Posts	Posted 02/29/2016 1:14 pm Quote: 5 year old silver coins don't tone that fast without help. Not true at all, the .9993 silver content of Eagles tones quite easily in a natural environment. I personally have had silver eagles develop vivid purple and blue toning after less than two years of album storage. Report this Post to the Staff
Broken-Coin Pillar of the Community United States 1812 Posts	Posted 02/29/2016 2:01 pm I'm curious if Natural Toning differs in different States? I live about 60 miles North of NYC.. Report this Post to the Staff
paxbrit Pillar of the Community United States 992 Posts	Posted 03/11/2016 4:21 pm If people are silly enough to pay 10 times the normal price for a BU Eagle coin because of toning, then they have created the market that takes them for a ride. Report this Post to the Staff
freddo30 Valued Member 299 Posts	Posted 03/29/2016 11:27 pm I'd need to see the coin in person ; the thin film interference equation seems out of balance for the colors shown and is oddly equal on both sides. Regardless, I wouldn't pay a premium for a spotty coin. Report this Post to the Staff
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