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ID Help, Please - Possibly Chinese?

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I am posting this for someone else.


ID-Help,-Please---Possibly-Chinese?

ID-Help,-Please---Possibly-Chinese?
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 Posted 02/28/2016  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Japan not China
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100 Mon from Japan, ca. Mid 1800s. I don't know how to spot fakes, but these are fairly popular, usually fetching $15-25 on the Bay.
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Yes, it is Japanese, and the second image is upside down.

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https://www.NGCcoin.com/price-guide...-duid-302028
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Looks like a modern fake to me.
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 Posted 02/29/2016  08:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, everyone for your responses.


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Looks like a modern fake to me.


I am curious about what you see that makes you think the coin is not authentic?

Since I am posting this for someone else, I have no idea about its provenance, but I can try to find out. That may or may not shed some light on the question.

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Another question: the NGC reference says:

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Smooth rim with validation mark at left and right


What is a "validation mark"? I do not see anything that could be one on their photo nor on this one in the OP.
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I just heard from the coin's owner. It weighs 22.04 g.
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22.04g is within tolerance, but that does not mean much with these coins.

I said it was fake because the characters lack the crispness that I normally see on Japanese coins of this era, especially on the reverse. The loghting and the harsh cleaning this coin has had might be influencing this. I know there are a lot of fakes out there, but there are also a lot of autherntic ones too. I just got a bad gut feeling about this coin, and I have learned to trust that gut feeling for cast Asian coins.
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Thanks for your help!
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any marks on the edge?
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I will ask.
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I believe it's genuine however cleaned.
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