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Valued Member
United States
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I looked over their site, it doesn't say they do, but it doesn't say they won't either... has anyone ever sent one in to be crossed?
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Rest in Peace
United States
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You can submit it to either NGC or PCGS if you crack it out and send it as a raw coin.
Neither of them will even except you sending in a SEGS slab no matter what ooin is inside.
SEGS is not considered a real certification company because there grading is perverse.
Show us the coin and we can offer an opinion on grade and if sending it in to PCGS or NGC is a viable option.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 Crack it out then send it. The grade is most likely wrong anyway imo. PCGS will accept anacs and NGC for cross. And maybe icg too but I'm not positive NGC will only accept PCGS
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: SEGS is not considered a real certification company because there grading is perverse. Confusing SEGS with SGS? SEGS, while not considered a top tier TPG, is a respected grading service. Especially for variety coins. "Buy the Coin not the holder...." To answer yopur question though......no idea?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
506 Posts |
As they say on their website here: http://www.PCGS.com/crossover They only accept NGC, ANACS, and ICG for crossovers, so no, they would not cross a SEGS graded coin. You would have to crack it out yourself and submit it raw.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Give PCGS a call and ask. They will probably say no but it doesn't hurt to ask. If you are concerned about cracking out the coin then most grading companies will do that for you as long as you make it clear it is being submitted raw.
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
NGC only accepts their own and PCGS for grading, reholdering their own and grade checking their own.
Send them anything in a slab for other than those purposes from any other company will result with the item or the entire submission form returned to you with a charge on your CC for the trouble of shipping and insuring.
Make life easy for everyone and simply follow their rules.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote:As they say on their website here: http://www.PCGS.com/crossover They only accept NGC, ANACS, and ICG for crossovers, so no, they would not cross a SEGS graded coin. You would have to crack it out yourself and submit it raw. Incorrect. A quick search of their message boards states they also accept SEGS and PCI graded coins. PCGS will accept any holder. Again, just call to confirm before trying to crossover "off" label holders. In the past PCGS explicitly stated they would take any holder and perform a courtesy "crack-out" if you want them to grade it as raw but I don't see that right now.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I agree caTll and ask. hey used to accept any slab. If they now restrict it to ANACS, NGC, and ICG, that is a recent change. NGC has limited it to PCGS only for some time now.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Thanks guys! I hadn't see the updates to this post until just now... I really don't want to try and crack it out of these holders... I don't mind them only accepting them as "raw" because the grades given by SEGS were BS! (That's not a grading acronym, it's a bad word) I will give PCGS a call about it before I submit them
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The Top 6 Certification Services are; PCGS NGC ANACS IGC *SEGS *PCI * = both SEGS & PCI are now considered 2nd Tier Grading Services.. Below is a screen shot from one of my facebook Coin Groups showing a ANACS VF-20 that just crossed over to VF-30 in a PCGS Holder.. 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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By whom?
PCI is a joke - the current incarnation has graded perhaps 10,000 coins since they resurfaced in 2012. And their grading over the years before that bankruptcy has been up and down. Oh, yeah and before 2012, they were engaged in fraud since the boiler room SELLING their "3rd party" coins was owned by the owner of PCI.
SEGS - well, SEGS has fans and detractors, with some people feeling they do well on certain series and less well on others.
The market has put ANACS and ICG in a separate tier from PCGS and NGC. You can call it 1.5, 2.0 or whatever...
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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When I mention SEGS & PCI, I'm thinking pre-2003, not the later years.. 
Edited by Broken-Coin 03/29/2016 6:08 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have not handled a SEGS coin in many years. The best one I ever had was an 1848-C $2.50 gold piece that they graded MS-63. It so happened that a dealer I knew also had an 1848-C quarter eagle in a PCGS MS-63 holder. The PCGS coin was a little better, but the price difference was huge. The SEGS coin cost $6,000; PCGS coin was $20,000.
I sold the SEGS coin for a $500 mark-up to one of the big coin companies, who I am sure cracked it out of that holder.
For the little guy who doesn't know any better, however, they don't know that one MS-63 to not the same as another MS-63. That's why SEGS can be dangerous if you don't know how to grade.
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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PCGS will crossover ICG? That's amazing if true. I have an MS-62 Barber dime in an ICG holder that has obvious wear on it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I should mention that 95+% of my SEGS, PCI & ANACS are error coins, where the type of error is more Important then the grade itself.. 15 years ago it could easily cost more for NGC or PCGS certification then the error coins value.. I guess I'm comparing  and  ..
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