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Another Unknown Late Medieval Coin.

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Small AR Medieval Coin.

My best guess on this one is the it's from Poland and possibly Ian Albert. Any help would be appreciated.

AR-17 .6 grams



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What makes you think it's Ian Albert (are you thinking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_I_Albert ?).
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Pretty much a shot in the dark, I saw similar coins of his with this design. Really isn't much to go on, not much detail on the reverse and no legend to speak of.
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@echizento, I see what you mean about the obv looking like a coin from Jan Olbracht (e.g. Kopicki #387). I'm not convinced though for two reasons. First, the rev design would then be a crown and no matter which way I look at your rev, I can't make that work. Second, the circle around the central design elements should be about 10 mm or so and your coin has much larger circles if the overall diameter is 17 mm. I'll see if I can offer an alternate attribution.
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Thanks, would appreciate any help.
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That eagle beak on the obv protrudes much more than normal and should be diagnostic. However, I'm having a hard time finding it though and have done a pretty thorough look through all Polish coins through the 1800s and everything German from the 1600s. Nothing seems like a good match for that squiggle on the rev. Unless I have an epiphany, I think that I'm stumped.
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With the eagle my first though was Poland or maybe Germany. I haven't seen anything from Hungary that looks like it. I wonder if it could be Austrian? I'm stumped too. This one may have to be labelled unknown. Thanks for trying, I appreciate it.
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I've found a similar eagle on trzeciak (1/3 of a half groschen) of Wladyslaw II Jagiello they had anywhere between 15.2-18.2 mm and 0.5-0.87g. The weight, diameter and the eagle seem to fit in, but the reverse seems to be something completely different.
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That's the problem just not enough detail on the reverse to say for sure.
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