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Here is a recent purchase and would like to see what the CCF Members had to say about her in comparison to PCGS.   Thank you for your interest and comments!  Edited by oih82w8
03/09/2016 07:21 am
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Obverse detail is mushy as if it was struck through heavy grease or similar. Reverse is better but not great either so the strike is sub-par in my book. The luster looks pretty good but with the strike I'd rate the eye appeal as a notch below average. So even though the surface preservation is gem-like the grade is no better than MS63 and I wouldn't pay MS62 money for it myself. I don't really like it and hope you're not offended.
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I think it's MS63
Several 1872-S's I looked at displayed similar dentils
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No offense at all...I did ask for opinions/comments.
Edited by oih82w8
03/08/2016 6:40 pm
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I'm not a fan either. Don't care for the color. The left side of the obverse bothers me. Either heavily polished die hairlines or whizzed or something. Mushy strike. If I didn't already own it I would pass
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This is a MS coin. At first I thought it appeared to be a case of misalignment / ablation, especially with the diagnostic parallel marks. Strike Doubling is present on the legends. However, on second thought I believe this to be an adjustment strike; other thoughts that came to mind included greased collar, or a partial collar broadstrike, but the diameter does not look enlarged. If it is an adjustment strike this would explain the misalignment and the smudge or slide effect, and the heavy die file lines. Just my thoughts. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Are those possibly striations on the left obverse? Broken (D) and on that side the reverse is weakly struck. San Fran strikes are known for having issues of one sort or another on Liberty Seated coinage of all denoms. I would not kick her out of my house. I think PCGS gave her an MS62 |
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PCGS is looking for after mint distractions for technical grade first, then considers strike, tone, etc., for the market grade, which is the numeric assignment provided.
In this instance the technical grade is MS-63 and I do not believe it suffers from enough after mint disturbance to reduce that grade.
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PCGS is looking for after mint distractions for technical grade first, then considers strike, tone, etc., for the market grade, which is the numeric assignment provided.
In this instance the technical grade is MS-63 and I do not believe it suffers from enough after mint disturbance to reduce that grade. The first sentence says, "PCGS uses post-mint distractions to determine technical grade" and the second sentence says, "Post-mint distractions aren't bad enough to alter the technical grade". They contradict one another with neither being entirely correct.  Strike should be a part of a mint state coin's technical grade as should surface preservation. Luster, toning and eye appeal are usually regarded as market grading characteristics. As to the OP's coin if you only consider surface preservation (i.e. post-mint distractions) then the coin is a gem MS65 easily because the surfaces are nearly pristine; It may even be an MS66 on that basis alone. But since half the grade involves strike, luster, color, eye appeal, etc that's where it falls way short and I would say it's worth MS62 money which is what market grading is all about. |
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This is what I really like about the CCF members, the discussion that takes place.  Edited by oih82w8
03/09/2016 2:23 pm
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I like the toning on the coin and the die polish lines do not bother me. MS63
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It's so different that if it's in a MS holder, that alone makes it a study in coin minting! I rather like it! It's likely a MS coin, easily would stir up discussion, and has
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