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Russian WW1 Commemorative Help

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 Posted 02/11/2008  4:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add OrDirtDevil to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I got these 3 metals years ago from a odds and end token/coin lot. I have spend a lot of hours trying to find out what they are. I have sent emails to war metal sites, asked Russians I know and so far little to nothing. I was told thou, that they are authenic, probably given to men fighting for the Russian army from other countries.

The only person/company that seemed to have a real idea of what they are offered me cash for them but won't offer any real details on what they were other then ethenic Russian WW1 commemoratives from 1914-1919.

I do have a freind right now in California doing some research on them and any help here would be appreciated to the both of us. Sure would like to hear from any one knowing what they could be or are.



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 Posted 02/11/2008  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You might have something quite scarce there - at my first impression, these are not really Russian but perhaps one of those Slavic states, i.e. Ukraine, Yugoslavia and Poland respectively. Hold onto them - the last one in particular is really nice. I'm not too sure about the first one but I'm quite sure of the other two because of the emblems. Hopefully someone here has more clues than I do - my Russian is too rusty of any use. Thanks for showing by the way.
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 Posted 02/11/2008  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice medals, all three do appear to be russian. My Russian isn't that good but I was able to translate Pycckar which is Russkie on each coin. You have some interesting WWI medals.
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 Posted 02/11/2008  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why go thru the headache. Ship em off to me and I'll find a nice home for them

Got any translations from your Russian friends?
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 Posted 02/11/2008  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OrDirtDevil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My wife was manager at a latge apartment complex in Portland. I did most of the maintenance, painting and remodeling for them. I showed these to a Russian man who was in his late 50s. He did know english pretty well but his accent made it hard sometimes to understand especially when he got excited.

GX, your responce about them being slavac sounds right on now that I see this. He said that he thought they were made in Russian and given to people from the Urkrane, Poland and/or Yugoslavia for fighting along side the Russian soldiers.

One thing he did keep saying, which seened so about everything he had to buy, we they were very expensive and valueable. That the person owning had to have died as they would never give up or sell the presious awards.

Outcast: I have them packed and couldn't find our mailing address. Then decided to maybe keep them for myself buddy.

Thank you all for your help in trying to solve these metals. I will keep you up to date on any progress.

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 Posted 02/13/2008  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atlashealth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great condition for century old medal/coins that date to Czar Russia...go to library or goggle...could be quite valuable!
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 Posted 02/17/2008  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My Russian is lousy, but I do believe I read "Russian Soldier" on the first medal.
On the third, the reverse gives it away with the crests/names for Russia and Poland.
I'm guessing the first two are Russian, and the third might be a collaboration.
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 Posted 02/19/2008  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iczech to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first medal obverse sign "Russian Solger/ Pride of Russia", reverse "Glory to native Victorious troops". All texts in Russian.
The second medal. Obverse "God Listens to Serbia" in Serbian, reverse "Russian Capital-city to Slavic brothers" in Russian.
The third medal. Obverse "Power is in Brothers' Unity" in Polish, reverse "Russians - to Polish brothers" in Polish and Russian. Obviously all of them are made by the same sculptor A. Jakar. If you are still interested I can ask people at russian-speaking faleristic forum
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 Posted 02/19/2008  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OrDirtDevil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, thanks for the information gang. iczech: I would appreciate any other information you can get about these and thanks for readin what you did already. I have a freind in California peicing bits together about them to find out what they exactly are.

He has contacted a few dealers he has dealt with before and they have little information about these particular war metals. He did say that he was offered some good money from one dealer and said to pass on it for now. The man didn't know what they actually were and never seen them before. He deals in 1000s of war metals every year. So my freind said changes are they are rare and valueable from his reaction of seeing them and the offer made.

Thanks again all. Will let you know what I find out about them. I know before these metals are sold, I will know the story on the. I have had offers before to buy them and unless I know their background I am not letting them out of my site.

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 Posted 02/20/2008  05:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iczech to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I received the following answers so far: these are tokens of Russian Society of Numismatists (POH - abbreviation in cyrillic present on the first piece). Stroke by St-Petersburg atelier of August Zhakard (name of the atelier is present on all three tokens). All three were on sales on different on-line auctions, it is possible to find them in archives. I found one similar to No1 - the price was about USD 240.
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 Posted 02/21/2008  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OrDirtDevil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks iczech, I contacted one of the auction houses and they answered me immediatley about seeing them. Then another staff member wanted some pictures of them always. I sent the pictures off this morning and will let everyone know what comes of it. Could be exciting news about them being rare and valueable or nothing more then common peices.

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