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Do Americans Count Commonwealth Of Philippines As American? Storage?

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I was down in Maine and picked up some scrap silver at the LCS. One of the coins was a, um, 20 centevos from The Philippine Commonwealth. It is UNC, do not have it handy (at my parents) but it got me wondering about doing a set of these little guys.

I mean they are legally American but do they come up in the world of American numismatics? I want something I can put in a dansco album of capital holder. Not just trade tokens or Canadian coins in 2x2 flips.

I live next to McCaine's Frozen Foods and teach some of their Fillipino workers English so I could probably get an EF set cheapish if I ask around.
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Interesting. What year is this 20 centavos, out of curiosity?

They don't come up in discussion here often but that doesn't mean folks don't collect them.
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It was in the 40s, I can get the exact date and mint mark tomorow. I also got a 1950 Syrian Lira. I guess that was a one year coin.

DO you know if they have an albulm or capital holder for them? I could not find one but youwould think they would exist.
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Philippine coins are very collectible and most were struck at the US mint.

The Philippines is where the US first tried out small size currency back in the 1920's. The experiment went well and the US converted the mainland to small size notes in 1929 and phased out the large size saddle blankets.

The early Phillipine currency was printed at the BEP in Washington and some of those notes are just absolutely beautiful.
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Thanks, westernsky.. good info. Didn't know that about the small-sized notes.

I'm not sure if there is a Dansco/Capital Plastics for this; some others may know. You could make your own album at CAPS if you so desired.

By the way, I like your avatar, Trebek, I mean, "Harmonica".
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Yea most of the coinage for the Philippines were made in Denver and earlier ones were made in San Francisco. Philippines made their own money after US declared their independence in 1946 right after WW2. You can easily find US issued coinage via the Philippines. I scored a bunch last year for a friend for melt. He has like 300 or so of these pieces.
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I moved your topic to the US Classic Coins forum since those who do count them as American coinage will count them among the Classics.
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Thank you jbuck, when I didn't see the topic in modern I assumed I got my answer about them being American and zipped over to the world section haha.

The Philippines was a commonwealth from '35-'45, before that it was an associated state. I think I will try to concur the Commonwealth and then go after the associated state (but of course I will buy them up as I see them at a good price).

If they can be had at melt I may put a want list up here on C.C.F. .

One dumb question from your Northern Neighbor. Guam is an associated state and Kentucky is a commonwealth, right? Can they both vote and travel across America freely? I am curious to how "American" the Philippines where.
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Kentucky is a state like the other 49. Their use of the term Commonwealth refers to their desire, along with Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, and Virginia, to be weird. No, seriously, their use of the term is different than how it is used for the relationship with our territories.
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Many US collectors search for Philippines, Puerto Rico, and Hawaii (coinage well before becoming a US State).

Some of the pieces, in high EF to MS are quite spendy, too.

I have an 1883 Hawaii Dollar (Dala) at NGC right now and am hoping for an EF righteous grade.

Even though I sold most of my world coins years ago, its fun to add a little variety to my date sets with coins minted here in the US.
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I have not seen any new albums for Philippine coins, but I think
I have seen some older Whitman and Dansco albums.

The U.S. RedBook coin price guide does have a section for
Philippine coins. From 1903 - 1945.
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Thank you GR58, nice to know the RedBook does have a section.

I could not find a Dansco so I tried finding a Whitman. I found one from Chief Coin and Supply and they are asking USD135. I can't get the image optimzier to work. Can one of the mods add a picture of Red Foxx grabing his chest?
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Key dates are '09, '10; '11' all S mint. Keep an eye out for 1928M, it's a known mule w/rev. of 5c.
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