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New Member
United States
8 Posts |
ooooo the colors
WHat are some good toned coins to invest in? or they all just different? :/ Edited by dismalrealm
03/23/2016 2:59 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
5238 Posts |
I agree that many toned coins are quite attractive, but I often wonder if the toning will change over the years, and maybe not look so nice. I would hesitate to invest in something that may be so fragile.
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Valued Member
United States
104 Posts |
 Toned coins with nice eye appeal generally carry a nice premium. If you're looking for investment, keep your eye on high grades. Out of curiosity, which coins do you have your eye on? |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6370 Posts |
I personally would advise against investing in toned coins, at least the monster-toned ones. It could just be a passing fad, or the coins could further tone in the holders if one is not careful.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
7096 Posts |
There are a lot of Artificially Toned coins "AT" out there that look amazing but in reality they are just Doctored/Damaged coins.
If you can find naturally toned coins in high grades then that is quite a different matter.
Silver wither it is made into a ring, candlestick or a coin WILL tone over the years, it is quite natural.
If I personally had to choose from a naturally toned older coin and a Blast White coin of the same type and year I would go for the toned coin in a heartbeat.
The aesthetics of the coin is just one of the reasons I would go with the toned coin But the main reasoning for me is that the toned coin has a much lesser chance of having being "Dipped" Whereas the with Blast White example I can be pretty much assured that the coin has been "Dipped" at some stage.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
527 Posts |
Some people does not like but most of the collectors love them including myself ... because they cost a lot I would buy only PGCS coins to make sure it's natural toning  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1339 Posts |
Yes! toned coins in holders are one thing,buying raw is a lot larger risk to me.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3278 Posts |
It's my understanding that toning is a dynamic condition, eventually becoming darker. I have often wondered if holders stop this or just slow it down? I know I have seen some pics of "top pops" and they always seem to be incredibly beautiful toned specimens. Someone here once showed us a bunch of super high end Seated coins he had that totally blew me away! They were investment grade and very expensive. |
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Valued Member
United States
411 Posts |
in my opinion a toned coin is like a car that needs painting or clothes with dirt stains. would you pay more for them ?
all are damaged, then look at a crisp clean silver dollar from the mint .
just my thoughts.
yes I have a few toned but I did not buy them that way.
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New Member
Canada
24 Posts |
I agree. Toned coins are tarnished coins. I don't want them that way, the same way I wouldn't want a rusty car.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
937 Posts |
okay, let us assume... 1. A toned coin is worth more than a white coin 2. A TPG holder will keep the toning as it is (excepting PCI holders) 3. Coin values will increase in the next 30 years like they did in the last thirty years So we buy a hundred monster toned coins in PCGS holders put them in a safe or deposit box for 30 years. So here we are with more grey hair, bigger waists, less hair and teeth; we open the box and the angels sing as we see our 100 beautiful coins... So what if.... 1. There was a Big news story last year that PCGS was run by crooks or whatever and now are the equivilent to ACG, SEC, NNM, or Compu-grade? 2. Tastes have changed and toning is seen as damage and a very bad thing So now we have all these 'investment grade' coins that no one will buy! Invest in stocks, bonds, securities, or investment things. Buy coins because you love them. If your first thought is return on investment you have lost the hobby. |
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Moderator
 Australia
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The colours from toning come from the Thin Layer Effect, just like the colours of an oil slick on water. The "layer" on a toned coin is a layer of metal oxidation products, caused by reaction of the metal with the atmosphere. And like an oil slick, the colours can change over time, depending on the thickness of the layer. The colour progression is like a rainbow: red is thinnest, then orange, yellow, green and blue. The next colour after blue is black, because the layer then becomes too thick to be transparent. TPG slabs are air-resistant, not completely airtight. Toning of slabbed coins can change, especially if the slab is kept in a corrosive atmosphere. As such, they are a terrible long-term investment. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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After watching the video on anodizing coins to tone them, I am mighty suspicious of anything from the last few decades.
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New Member
Canada
24 Posts |
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Invest in stocks, bonds, securities, or investment things. Buy coins because you love them. If your first thought is return on investment you have lost the hobby. I fully agree. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Invest in stocks, bonds, securities, or investment things. Buy coins because you love them. If your first thought is return on investment you have lost the hobby. This!  For me, coins are a hobby. They are best enjoyed this way. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3546 Posts |
Besides just looking at a coin and taking a wild guess are there certain methods and empirical tests that an everyday collector can implement to ensure that a coin has 100% natural toning: light meter, % reflectivity etc?
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