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1951-D LWC Rim To Rim Delam & ? On Rev

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This Delamination goes almost rim to rim. What is up with the edge on the Reverse? And is that a strike through on the Reverse? or a planchet void? or PMD? The diameter of the coin is normal.
Photos of the whole coin added to the thread below.


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Looks like this was an Encased Cent, but now it is just a damaged coin with a lamination issue.
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Why would an Encased Cent have a normal rim around part of the reverse? (you can see where it begins to be normal). And why would the Obverse rim be normal? (See the portion near the date)
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My apologies. I should have included photos of the whole coin!


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They probably inserted it at the normal area and pressed it into place on the opposite side, damaging the rim on both sides?
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They probably inserted it at the normal area and pressed it into place on the opposite side, damaging the rim on both sides?


The one argument I can make to support this analysis is that the Cent weighs a bit light; 3.03G.

The argument against it is that the portion on the Reverse where the coin extends beyond its rim is that the extension runs Clockwise from 4k to 11k. On the Obverse, the extension runs clockwise from about 8k to 11k. On the Obverse, the Rim is intact and on the Reverse, the Rim fades out.

So I am having difficulty envisioning an encasement which would leave such a pattern in the Cent.

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Here are some detail photos of the way in which the coin extends beyond the rim on the Obverse (see especially the last photo of the edge of the coin):


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The edge of the coin is concave along the portion of the obverse which extends beyond the rim, and is normal the rest of the circumference. Perhaps this is evidence of encasement? If so, why doesn't it go around the entire circumference?


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I am becoming convinced that this is encasement. I was looking for uniformity, and apparently that is no always the case (with an encasement!)
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I found an article which discusses how Encased Coins are encased and it shows that a concave edge is a key feature of an Encased Coin! Interesting! I am not allowed to post the link to the website for my source of information (I don't know why!). It is the website of Encased Collectors International. I am not aware that my mentioning this is against the rules, but if it is, please someone tell me and I will remove it.
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