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Canada Is Making It Harder For All Coin Collectors

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by removing any older coins from circulation. Older nickels dimes and higher were magnetic and easy to sort out and these are being melted for their metal. I just talked to some collectors from Canada and they are finding it harder to get coins older than 2000 while I just found a 1943 dime in my change.
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It's called the Alloy Recovery Program. Here's an article:

http://canadiancoinnews.com/alloy-r...hange-fresh/
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That is the unfortunate reality. The mint is run as a business, and coinage is not maintained for the convenience of collectors, but for consumers.

Historically, most countries have withdrawn their coinage from time to time and replaced it with something new. It would be even worse if we were in Europe!
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I'm glad this hasn't happened in the US. Instead of losing out our older coins to the government we're losing them out to collectors.
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I was searching USA cents about a year ago and found plenty of older ones right back to 1916. The problem is if you roll them back up and take them back to the bank in Canada you loose the exchange rate. I inquired about that and was told thats the way it is for all coinage, and you only get the exchange rate back for bills. So if you live close to the border or have a bank that will give the exchange rate back to you then searching USA coins isn't really worth the gamble. IMO
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Wow. That's quite a change in a very short time. That will not only reduce the number of older coins quickly, but may cause some coins previously considered common to become scarcer.
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They kind of had to with the new 2012 security loonies and toonies, in their wisdom the RCM made these two coins slightly smaller and lighter to monkey up the vending industry.
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I was searching USA cents about a year ago and found plenty of older ones right back to 1916. The problem is if you roll them back up and take them back to the bank in Canada you loose the exchange rate. I inquired about that and was told thats the way it is for all coinage, and you only get the exchange rate back for bills. So if you live close to the border or have a bank that will give the exchange rate back to you then searching USA coins isn't really worth the gamble. IMO]


All funds deposited into a US Dollar account here in Canada are deposited as US funds therefore you will not lose anything. US money is US money.
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No I was told same thing at the bank only bills count,change doesn't count.
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Interesting that this doesn't happen in the US. Are the half dollar and the one dollar exceptions to the rule?
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Interesting that this doesn't happen in the US.



I think the difference is in the US, US coin in their legal tender. Generally, the reason Cdn banks accept US banknotes on deposit to US$ bank accts or for immediate exchange is because they simply recycle it to Cdn buyers of US currency and I'd suspect most often demand exceeds supply, considering the majority of us are in the habit of buying at least a limited amount of US cash before we cross over the border. But likewise, who in Canada would want buy US coin? Probably nobody and the cost to ship US coin to the US considering the weight would likely be greater than face value.

Lots of people save US coin.....they either take it over the border to exchange at a US bank for US banknotes or deposit it to a US dollar bank account.
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I can tell you first hand that if I deposit fifty cents US into my Us account and do the same thing the following day, I will then be able to withdraw $1 Greenback.
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Darryldarryl, there's likely exceptions.....consider yourself special!
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Holindaze This brings up a topic that I find very worrisome. The Alloy Recovery Program seems to be very successful as I rarely find anything except post 2002 coinage. Plated steel and an effigy you don't have to look twice at. Personally I have lost interest in current coinage. I used to find many semi goodies in change alas no more. I believe drawing in new collectors of circulating coinage may diminish, as they are forced to have to buy older coinage because it no longer circulates. Sounds crazy but probably have better luck roll hunting US rolls for past Canadian coins than Canadian rolls.
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When I worked in banks years ago, some (usually large, commercial branches, like the one I worked in) would handle US coin, but most don't. We'd only take it rolled.
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Roll hunters, you might be interested in reading this older thread about the Alloy Recovery Program:

https://goccf.com/t/122685&whichpage=1
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