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Some Error Coins From Malaysia And Singapore + Mystery?

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 Posted 03/27/2016  10:05 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was going through a batch of coins from Malaysia and Singapore. I wasn't expecting anything of significantly import since they are normal circulated coins. But I guess if you look hard - you might find something! Now this is more interesting as error coins from Singapore and Malaysia are not common. Malaysian error coins might be easier to find compared to Singapore.

Introducing Malaysian error coins -

Malaysia 1990 20 sen - Mechanical Doubling on "20"

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Malaysia 2007 20 sen - doubling on 20"07", attempted correction on legend "NEGARA MALAYSIA" (?)

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To be honest - I am stumped over this error. The doubling on the number "07" was easy to figure out however it seems that there is something going on with the legend. I have compared this to a normal 2007 20 sen to show that this is different. To me, it seems that there must have been some kind of error with the legend and there was attempt to correct it. This is where I struggle to understand - unless something happened during the reduction process, I cannot quite see how this problem occurred. Maybe someone can suggest something more probable?

And a couple of error coins from Singapore. To be honest - I nearly missed both of them since these errors are not obvious at all!

Singapore 1968 20 cents - rotation error

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To illustrate this error, this is what a normal coin is supposed to look like.

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I nearly threw this in a pile of "junk" lot to be sold as such. As of how I managed to figure out the rotation error... I guess it's luck.

Singapore 1990 50 cents - Mechanical Doubling

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This also nearly went in a pile of junk lot. Since it had an ugly stain to it, I paid no attention to it. A quick 2 second look revealed that this has some Mechanical Doubling, which is not common on Singapore coins.

Please feel free to share error coins from Malaysia and Singapore.

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03/27/2016 10:10 am
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 Posted 03/31/2016  02:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Going to bump this topic since I haven't had any clue on the mystery of "Negara Malaysia"

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Any idea of what it is?
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 Posted 03/31/2016  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sander to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Malaysian coin is struck with a well used die.. This one is quit extreem but I've seen this more on coins from Malaysia..

There also nice doubled die coins to find from Malaysia..Also some "extreme"..
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 Posted 03/31/2016  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sander, I've seen a few examples of Malaysian coins struck on well worn dies but this doesn't seem to match what I have seen. With well worn dies, the rim seem to be well worn despite having XF+ surface. This however still have sharp rim other features seem to be clear.

I've uploaded a larger image here - it's about 1 - 2 mb large.

http://gxseries.com/dump/my_2007_20sen_large.jpg

Would you think it's just only those words that got worn first somehow? I am thinking it's unlikely but you'll never know with error coins... I could be wrong.


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03/31/2016 10:54 am
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 Posted 03/31/2016  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also think the legend "Negara Malaysia" is caused by a worn die.

Some Aussie coins demonstrate this as well. Seems to be particularly prevalent in our 5c, 10c and 50c without affecting the rims.

Nice rotation!
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 Posted 04/04/2016  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Nancy for your opinion. I'm still somewhat puzzled over how this happened but I guess it's a strong possibility - it's the first of the kind that I own.
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 Posted 04/12/2017  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kmasavage to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While sorting through some Singapore coins, I came across a 20 cent coin (attached). The obverse was oddly etched, with the rim completely gone. Even the vertical lines on the edge were etched.

My first thought was that someone had purposely damaged the coin.

However, when I flipped to the reverse side, everything was missing. It looked like only one side of the blank was struck and the reverse side etched around the rim area with a lot of scratches.

Blanks made with precious metals and are smooth and polished. As this is a pre-1986 circulated 20 cent coin, its composition is copper-nickel.

So, my first question is, can anyone send me a picture of a pre-1986 blank?

The damage on the reverse made me think it had been ground off. That may explain the reverse side, but not the etching on both the obverse and reverse. However, because the etching around the reverse side rim area was not scratched, the scratching must have occurred before the etching.

Also, if the reverse side was ground off, there should be a change in weight and thickness. My scale doesn't show gram decimal amounts, the normal weight of a pre-1986 circulated 20 cent coin and this funky 20 cent piece are the same.

Dimensionally, the thickness of funky coin is only slightly thinner due to the missing rim on the obverse. This thickness combined with the amount required to grind off the reverse rim and all details would make the coin much skinnier than it is.

Could this have all happened at the mint? If not, what would cause this type of damage? Any thoughts?

Lastly, if this is a minting error, how would you value this coin?

Keith


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 Posted 04/12/2017  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 'etching' appears to me to be the result of the coin having been on a road and being run over, so basically road kill.

Th obv does look like it's been ground off, so sorry, my opinion is that the coin is only worth face value.


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permission to post..since this is a malaysian-singaporean coin topic,i have a few question guys..ihave found a 1973 10 sen (see pictures below) appears tobe smaller and thinner among other 10 sen coin..is this an error struck in different planchet or a common size for that year?another one is a 1981 with a line inthe middle of the A in word malasia..hope that someone can tell me about this issue..thank you in adavance.
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