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Pillar of the Community
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  Here is an 1800 Half Cent that once a part of my die variety collection. When I became a dealer, I sold off almost all of that collection as "seed money" for my new business. This is one piece I liked because the it has it's feet in two centuries. The obverse shows the new for the Half Cent) Draped Bust design. The reverse was an old 18th century that was previously unsued. It's grading history might surprise you. *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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At least mid/high AU; MS wouldn't surprise me.
I'm attributing the flatness in places to a less than full strike, not wear.
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Pillar of the Community
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AU-58 to MS-62 BN...
Awesome coin.
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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Woops! I put in the Classic Coin area instead of the Grading area. Oh well.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
594 Posts |
Great Half Cent ! Not quite sure what to make of the light horizontal marks in the reverse fields. My opinion is AU-58 although it may deserve a bit higher. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Beautiful, like all your things. I'll just take a stab at AU-55, possibly 58.
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Rest in Peace
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I'm in at 55, making this a truly supreme example.
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Pillar of the Community
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I see wear on the cheek and drapery, plus a little on the highest points on the hair. Rims are uneven with beading absent in many areas. Both sides otherwise seem well-struck. Obverse color looks nice and original, but the light area on the right side of the reverse looks odd in the photo. It doesn't appear to be luster. Some kind of cleaning such as a light wipe with a cloth? Hopefully, this is not something that would constitute a "problem" for a TPG. I'd call it AU-53. |
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I'll say a problem-free AU-58. Reverse looks fantastic.
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Thank you for all of your responses. My grade for this coin is AU-55. The TPG grade was "body bag" for artificial toning. This was one of a few early copper coins that were in my collection that came back in a body bag. (For those who are confused by this, today genuine coins that the TPGs judge to have problems go into "genuine" or "details" holders. Before that such coins were not graded and were sent back in flips with a one or two word message on them why they failed to grade. In essence you got nothing for your grading fee.) Since I had been a collector for 25 years before slabs came on the market, all my collection was raw. I had all of the major coins graded, and among my gold and silver coins all but one of them got grades that met or exceeded my expectations. Among my copper coins, NGC over graded my 1793 dated coins, but they and PCGS pounded almost everything else with "no grades" or "body bags." I was piqued because some of the coins were condition census pieces according to the EAC experts. Okay maybe I made a string of bad buys in early copper, although I didn't think so. A few years I sold some of those early copper coins. Much to my chagrin I started seeing a few of them in appear in auctions in straight grade holders. In other words subsequent owners got the coins graded after I got nothing for my money. Why did this happen? When I submitted the graders at the TPG didn't how to grade early copper. They were good at grading Morgan dollars and the like, but copper was beyond their expertise. Some of us paid for their ignorance. I know that some of think that the grade on the holder is the last word. It isn't. There have been many instances were coins didn't get grades the first time but them in subsequent submissions. There have been many, many cases coins have gotten different grades in multiple submissions. TPG graders are not perfect. They are human. Edited by billjones
03/31/2016 09:01 am
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Valued Member
United States
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Thanks Bill. Pretty coin. I would've called it at AU-58 due to very light friction on the cheek and drapery line.
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Bedrock of the Community
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i also had it at AU58. a little light on strike but thats quite typical. post some of your 1793 copper when you get a chance. I cant wait to see some of those.  |
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AU details, artificial toning :)
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Posted 03/29/2016 10:17 am
