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Chinese Cash Coin - Mint?

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I realize this is likely a most inconsequential coin, but I'm trying to improve my identification skills for this genre. I have this as being of the Chai-Ch'ing Reign of Emperor Jen Tsung. Where I'm a little unsure is with respect to the mint mark, which, having looked at photos of exemplars, doesn't seem (to my eye, at least) to be an exact match to any of them.

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I do chuckle at the reign name in this instance sounding so much like what we Americans nowadays associate with the operation of a cash register and use as slang to signify the receipt or making of money.
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I attribute this as Emperor Ren Zong (1796-1820). Mint is Board of Revenue based on the boo chiowan characters on the rev. Those guys had about 35% of the casting quotas, which was almost twice as much as the next most prolific mint. To get into the nitty gritty details, your coin has the two dot version of the tong character so I'm going to say that this is from the South branch.
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Going through stuff from my parents house Father was in China during WWII.
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Would this be the same coin?
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Would this be the same coin?


Same value, but different emperor and mint. I believe yours is a Qian Long tong bao from Emperor Gao Zong (1736-95). Mint is the Board of Works and the attribution is Hartill #22.258. Your specific coin was made in the timeframe 1775-94.

Since CCF is about learning, here is a brief primer on how you can tell:
1. The side with the four characters is the obv and generally contains information about the emperor. If you look closely, you will see that the top and bottom characters are different on yours compared to the OP's.
2. Subtle differences in these characters help to determine among the various sub-varieties (such as the shape of the top portion AKA the "head" on the right character (tong)).

3. On the rev, there are two characters and these generally relate to the mint. In the case of your coin, there is a little dash to the right of the right character (yuwan). That is diagnostic for this particular mint.

For about $50, you can buy Hartill's Cast Chinese Coins. There are other books which undoubtedly are super, but I find this book to work well for me.
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Thanks
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For about $50, you can buy Hartill's Cast Chinese Coins. There are other books which undoubtedly are super, but I find this book to work well for me.


Hartill is the best for the Western collector. Most other catalogues are out-of-date or printed in Chinese.

Here are a couple of lists of literature on Chinese coins.

http://www.coincoin.com/bkXC.htm

http://www.coincoin.com/bkCC.htm
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I attribute this as Emperor Ren Zong (1796-1820).


Thanks. That's the same time span as put forth on my (online) source, so despite the disparity in the spellings, I think we're in fact talking about the same emperor. In looking more carefully, I see why it is has to be a "Boo Ciowan" (Board of Revenue), it's just that some stylistic differences in the character threw me off at first.
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despite the disparity in the spellings, I think we're in fact talking about the same emperor.


yes very common to have multiple pinyin spellings for the same name.
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