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Lincoln Cent Durability Testing, 2nd Edition: Elongated Cents

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Since it's been discussed in the Copper Lincolns vs Zincolns: Durability testing! thread, I thought I'd do it here without hijacking that thread any more.
For those who haven't read the aforementioned thread, here's a synopsis of what I plan to do. I'm going on a band trip to Disney World in a few days, and I plan on comparing several types of cents in the elongating machines (not really sure what to call them). The coins I will use are not set in stone, but here are the ones I have selected:

Test subject no. 1: LWC.
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Test subject no. 2: Copper LMC.
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Test subject no. 3: Zincoln.
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Test subject no. 4: Steel LWC.
I had a polished 43-S in mind, but this oxidized one is the first I could find.
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Test subject no. 5: Rotted Zincoln.
I gave this a quick vinegar bath to make it look even worse.
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Test subject no. 6: Steel Canadian cent.
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I'm debating whether I should do an IHC. It would look neat, but I don't know if I could bring myself to do it. Here's one I had in mind, which is already quite damaged. What do you guys think?
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Any suggestions are appreciated.


EDIT: By the way, do these still cost a quarter each, or is it more expensive like everything else at Disney?
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04/04/2016 8:13 pm
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This will be really interesting to see! I want to say it's $.50 per at Disney World but it may be $1.00. Make sure you visit a few different locations to get different images stamped on each one!
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That's the plan.
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 Posted 04/04/2016  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paola1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting topic .... Looking forward to see the results ... I have 2 coins from "bass pro shop ", if I remember still the machine requested a penny and a quarter to make the "elongated" coin lol
I went to Disney 2 years ago and I saw those machines there but ended up forgetting to use them

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 Posted 04/04/2016  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldephriam to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am into collecting elongated coins big time, finding the machines when I travel is the best part. Let me help you with a few things.

First of all calling them elongated coins is the correct technical term, but most collectors just call them stretched pennies and the machines are generally referred to as stretched penny machines. Strangely enough, when a collector is looking for a particular machine then he/she is on a "squishn mission".

Next, clean the coins. You will have better end results. A bath in a mixture of some table salt dissolved in white vinegar followed by a rinse in soda water will do the trick.

Third, there are a mind numbing amount of machines available. Some are $.50 and some are $1.00 so plan accordingly. Also there are some machines that will squish dimes and quite a few that squish quarters. Please consider doing a side experiment, clad vs. silver.

Last, please do the Indian Head cent PLEASE! This would be so cool!! Please please please do it
Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it!!!!!
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The penny machines at Disney World and many others at National parks have taken the penny along with 2 quarters. Some are still crank some just do it with a machine action. Disney did have some that flattened a quarter. Those were addl 4 quarters though and I've never done those.
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Last, please do the Indian Head cent PLEASE! This would be so cool!! Please please please do it
Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it!

It would be pretty cool...

I don't think I'll clean the coins, since I kind of want to see how they look the way they are.
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I'll bring a roll of quarters for the machines, along with one silver in case I find a quarter one. The last time I saw one of the machines (at the Seattle aquarium) I think it only required one quarter, but I may be wrong.
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I would be interested in seeing how that would work with a 12% nickel 1860ish Indian Head penny.

I suspect it would look pretty much the same except whiter and I would hate to see such a coin destroyed but if it is in the name of science I could live with it, especially if it isn't my coin being squished.

I might also suggest one of the Canadian pennies with the flat edges just to see if it changes anything.
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I would be interested in seeing how that would work with a 12% nickel 1860ish Indian Head penny.

I couldn't bring myself to destroy a 150 year old coin. Anyway, I doubt it would fit in the machine since they're a lot thicker.
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Some elongated machines have magnets to catch the steel cents before they're rolled, supposedly because the steel cents cause more wear on the dies. But try it anyway, since steel cents make the best looking elongateds!

Disney also has a lot of quarter designs, so if you've got any silver coins laying around, give one a try as Numisma suggested.
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My predictions:

1950:great
1973s: great
2009d: shorter than it should be, but okay
1943d: not sure ... shorter and ugly perhaps
2007 Rotten: really ugly and short
2002 Cdn: short, but okay, like the '09
1900 IHC: awesome, but that verdigris will still show up if not removed

Good luck, very interesting and fun experiment!
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Some elongated machines have magnets to catch the steel cents before they're rolled, supposedly because the steel cents cause more wear on the dies.

I didn't think about that. Oh well, we'll see.
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I have some other thoughts now that I have slept on it. I am finding that machines now seem to be set differently so the zinc cents are coming out longer and the older copper coins are short rolls. Disneyland and Disney World are among the very few places that have machines that will roll dimes, these machines are rare but worth finding, they are there.

Consider rolling some small dollars in the quarter machines. I would love to see how a SBA, a Native American and a Presidential turn out. This is something I would do without hesitation. I must confess, I have never been to either Disney park and I never plan to go to either one. The only other place that I know of that has a quarter rolling machine is the Space Needle in Seattle. If I am ever there I WILL roll as many quarters and small dollars as I can. The only places that I know of that have dime rolling machines outside of the Disney parks is in Cody Wyoming and Trees of Mystery in Northern California.

If I could figure out how I would give you a big handful of these coins that I have mentioned and have you roll them for me. Every time I hear about someone that is traveling outside of the US or is going somewhere that I haven't been then I give them a list of where the machines are and some money so they can get me some. I have elongated coins from Guam, Scotland, Italy and several from Disneyland. I also have many, many many coins from all over the US.
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This will be fun.

Do not do it to that Indian Head cent. I am sure you can find a more deserving cull in the LCS bargain bin.
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Maybe I'll bring a merc or two.

Jbuck- how about this?

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I really don't have anything worse, and I can't get to an LCS before Friday.


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The only other place that I know of that has a quarter rolling machine is the Space Needle in Seattle. If I am ever there I WILL roll as many quarters and small dollars as I can.

My grandfather took me once or twice as a kid, but I'm pretty sure admission is fairly expensive. If I ever go back, though, I'll bring some.
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