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1944 Wheat Error?

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 Posted 02/17/2008  6:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DantheGrey to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I've got several Lincoln 1 cent error coins and as a new member I will be presenting them for comment and evaluation over the months to come.

I'm guessing that I should present each of them seperately so as not to confuse the responses. If this is the wrong approach let me know. In just a few short weeks I've come to repect the opinions of many of you just by reading my way through this site.

Some Error Coins turn out to be Altered...
Some Altered Coins turn out to be Errors...
But I took this Trip for the Journey not the Destination...

So check out this 1944. I call this one "Lincoln with Chin on His Chest". The extra date in his hair has me confused. Look close because there are really two heads here but the other one is hard to see without coin in hand.

1944-Wheat-Error?

1944-Wheat-Error?

***Edited by Forum Dad to fix image code***
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 Posted 02/17/2008  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Becky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I won't even venture a guess on this coin, it is very unusual.....but maybe the bump will help foundinrolls or someone with more experience than me to find this thread.

I love the phrase you have in your post.

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I took this Trip for the Journey not the Destination...


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 Posted 02/17/2008  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Homer1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, Welcome, Maybe I can help you with this coin. I hope you don't mind my evaluation. I don't think that the Mint would have let this coin out of the building. Here we go- The Autopsy of a coin. I think that the coin was beaten with a hammer and mutilated. As for the doubling this may have happened with a penny die punch with a person who has nothing to do or testing it. Now I could be wrong and we will have to see who else weighs in on this.
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02/17/2008 8:14 pm
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Forum Dad, thanks for the pic fix. Maybe you can teach me that trick some time.

Hi Becky, did you get a chance to look at the pics I posted about the 1978 200 Lire DD error? You were my first reply to my first post. And feel free to use that quote, anytime. I'm pretty sure it once belonged to someone else..

Homer, that's one of the reasons I'm here. Opinions and evaluations without hidden agenda. It's refreshing. Thanks
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 Posted 02/17/2008  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Becky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, I just went over and checked out the Lire. That is some amazing doubling! Thanks for sharing.

Keep this stuff coming, I'm really enjoying these
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Forum Dad, thanks for the pic fix. Maybe you can teach me that trick some time.

Just click on the 1944-Wheat-Error? above your post and take a peek for yourself.
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 Posted 02/23/2008  05:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My 1 cent's worth: I cant say the coin was beaten with a hammer or bent about by any other tool because the reverse details show no damage (flattening) a hammer, vise, wrench, 2nd coin hammered upon it, etc. would cause to them. Reverse features show extreme (and fairly uniform) MD. So, I mostly suspect it made it out of the mint in that condition.
Nice coin. I have several concave cupped coins that are in XF condition with zero damage. I may be wrong about all of this -- that's why it's only 1 cent's worth
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 Posted 02/23/2008  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You won't see this very often:-) I have no idea:-)! It does not look like an error that falls into the normal minting process. So, the odds are that it is altered in some way. I can't tell how though. So, I don't know is my response....
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 Posted 02/24/2008  03:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gusp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These coins drive me nuts. I suppose that if the coin got stuck in the collar and did not move too much the rev, could be correct. The obv looks like it was struck 4 times including a strike by some type of capped die. My natural inclination is to expect more doubling buried somewhere on the rev. similar to the number of hits on the OBV. Too much conflict for me. I avoid them....sadly.

There are so many fakes out there that I cannot tell you what this is. Maybe Coppercoins knows this error. Or, Try Mike Byers or Fred Weinberg. They would probably know.

I agree with F.I.R. I do not really know either. I may never be able to tell!

If you find out for sure let us know the how and why. Gusp
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 Posted 02/24/2008  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe this coin to be a test of a false die. I highly doubt its authenticity as a mint created error coin. Too many things do not fall into place for this to be anything the Mint created.
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 Posted 02/26/2008  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DantheGrey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for everyones input. This coin, and several more, all pennies, came from inside one of those old tri-fold travel alarm clocks. It belonged to my Grandfather who passed away in 1993. I just recently discovered it in a box of household stuff that we packed away back in 2004.

Grandpa had a knack of coming up with these odd-ball pennies, I can remember him showing us different ones at different times during my childhood.

With all of the talk and opinions as to grading services where should one consider sending a handful of possible error coins for grading these days?

Thanks
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 Posted 02/26/2008  02:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It'll cost you a Mint to have them graded even if they are not authentic errors. They may just come back as damaged and you still get charged for that. You gotta read the fine print. There is a slabber that advertises a quick turnaround and no charge for no grades. That part is true, they don't charge for the fact that they couldn't grade the coin but they still charge a service charge to look at the coin.

You should probably keep posting pics and if there is something worth slabbing, we can let you know.
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