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 Posted 02/25/2008  8:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add of-grampa to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi All

In my last box of Kennedy half dollars I found a 94D that looks wierd. My first thot was that I had found a coin from one of those "teaching kids about counting money" sets...basicly play money. The reverse is an exact duplicate...I can't see any difference in color, strike, details of design, etc.

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The front is another story. The obverse has no luster, the design has a "flat" look to it. When you drop it lightly on a surface it has a "flat" sound to it, almost the same as a zinc penny.

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The edge shows shows only 2 layers of cladding, the copper core and the copper/nickel reverse. The obverse doesn't show cladding on the egde but there has to be some because of the nickel color on front.

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The coin feels lighter than a normal half but I don't own a scale so I'm not sure on this. The coin almost has a "plastic" feel to it on the obverse but the reverse has that "coin" feel to it.

Finally, there is quite a bit of rotation in the dies...not sure of the degree but when you turn the coin over it is for sure not straight (Please see top 2 pics...I did a 180 degree flip so you can see the difference

Any idea what I have here?
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02/25/2008 9:58 pm
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 Posted 02/25/2008  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you fool with the coin enough, you will probably discover that it has been tampered with and a Magician's coin has been created from it.

A little bit of circulation and it becomes almost impossible to open it up.

Most Kennedys that appear to be rotated dies are " Magician's coins" that have been opened up and carelessly put back together paying no attention to the relative positions of the obverse and reverse.

I have several here.

The first thing I do when I discover one that appears to be a rotated die coin is to do a "ring test". Just drop it onto a hard surface to see if it rings the same way as a normal half. Usually the rotated die coin just goes "THUD".

It sounds like a hunk of lead when it hits.

Then drop a regular Kennedy and listen to the high musical ring produced.

If it passes the "ring test" and sounds like a normal coin, let me know and we'll go on to the next step.


Magician's coins are pieced together from several coins to create an illusion. There is an insert made from one coin that fits into a hollow made in another coin.

Many are used to create the illusion, by turning the insert around, of a two headed or two tailed coin.

Some that are more "fancy" have on the inside a completely different coin used such as an older 20 Centavos of Mexico or an older penny of Great Britain.

I suspect that you have one of these. I see what looks like a seam on the reverse of your coin . That is the piece that you want to try to remove.

Thanks,
Bill
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02/25/2008 11:20 pm
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 Posted 02/26/2008  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add of-grampa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well Bill, you nailed it

Started messing around with the coin and with the help of some needle nose pliers (OUCH) it came apart.....the other side of the reverse is a 1980 Mexico centavos. I didn't ruin the coin so I may have a little fun with it. I know Grandma was amazed by it LOL

Thanks for the help
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 Posted 02/26/2008  02:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My Pleasure. They are fun to find and fun to get inside of :-)

I am glad that I could help!

Bill
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