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1881 $10, Am I Being Overly Harsh, VF ?

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I was able to purchase an 1881 $10 recently and I was wondering what grade the good folks from across the pond would give it ?
Being in the UK I don't come across US coins very often and when I do I find that my grading is often a lot lower than others give, my initial reaction to the coin was " VF " at best possibly F+.
It has good details with a little lustre in places but both sides have field marks, no edge dings.
I have seen worse condition coins graded higher but that was by a TPG company and we all know they are not fit for purpose.
Interested to hear your thoughts.


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Not great pics I'd say xf/AU details cleaned. Gold is very tricky to grade sometimes due to strike.
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The second set of pictures give it a cleaned appearance. It also looks to be in a lower grade in the second pair of images. I think that it is an EF coin, EF-40 by the second images, maybe EF-45 by the first. Some cleaning seems to be involved, perhaps enough to give it a "details" grade by an American TPG, but I can't say that for sure from the images.
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I agree with the XF45 possibly AU50. pics are little tough to grade this one by. the purple undertones could indicate a cleaning at some point
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XF possibly cleaned at one time.
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It looks EF-40 to me, but I cannot tell if it would grade Details.
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Thanks everyone for your comments
It came from a piece of jewellery, it was housed in 1 of the sympathetic mounts that doesn't damage the coin.
Its pretty much what I thought regarding grade, I always go low as a precaution when buying out of my normal field of collecting.
That way I don't get burnt very often, I can at least flip it for a fraction over spot and still walk away happy.
Thanks again.
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Take a look at PCGS Photograde. Circulated gold is definitely graded higher than you might expect due to the softness of the metal.
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I agree with EF detail. For a common-date coin like this the price will not usually change much for grades from VF to low AU. If it were graded and judged to be a problem coin (such as "ex-jewelry") that would push the value down to melt for most collectors.
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Your reaction just shows the differences between the UK/US grading scales. I'd say for the UK scale, around a gVF (our EF-45). Your "VF" is like our EF-40. I'd recommend using the US scale for US coins since this is much more universally understood given they are the basis of TPGs.
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