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First of all, I resumed my coin hobby just this year. I resurrected my from circulation, Lincoln Cent collection, and have been able to upgrade the condition of some of these coins from checking penny rolls from the bank. Thought I would never touch Lincoln Cents again, but have found the second time around, it is fun. My first love is US Braided Hair Large Cents(1840-57), but that is somewhat expensive, so I do the Lincoln Cents between my foray's into Large Cent collecting. Today I was checking all the Lincoln Cents I had mined out of rolls for possible varieties, when I stumbled along one 1992 and two 1992D cents which had doubling in the dates. I yipped for you, but later I said "Drats! Foiled" I did a little research and found that the doubling was due to deteriorating dies. I kind of thought the doubling looked a little weak and mushy. Anyway, as I understand things through my Large Cent collecting, I realize that even modern coins can be collected by die states. This experience also educates me for that remote possibility that I might someday wish to purchase a doubled die coin. At least I know more about the subject, and should be able to identify those which are not true doubled die coins. Thanks for listening to my into, and new experience. CaleyAnn |
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 If we can ever be of help while you learn the error/variety niche of coin collecting, just let us know!  |
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Sudz, Thanks. I've looked at the Wexlar's web page, and I never realized just how many variations there are. There are just too many for one person to look for, let alone remember. So I have been looking at the " Lincoln Cent Resource" web pages to try finding things. Been through about $100 of pennies, and so far nothing listed there. I've only found the three deteriorated die doubling, and one 2015D penny that had identical cut marks on the opposing rims. That I was told could have been caused by someone with a pair of pliers or it could have possibly been from a machine at the mint, but was informed it was worth nothing but a penny. My main objective when I started hunting penny rolls was to find Wheaties that would fill many of the gaps I have in my collection. I doubt I will find many, and probably will have to eventually purchase coins to fill those gaps. But like I said, my first love are US Braided Hair Large Cents. I am concentrating on the 1850 varieties right now. CaleyAnn |
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Coop, thanks. Those are great links to some wonderful photos. But it seems that unless you've got a great pair of eyes, many of these are impossible to see without super high magnification.
I've thought about purchasing a 10X-200X(?) video camera to view suspect coins, but not sure it is worth it, or even if it would be helpful. Do any of you cherry pickers (I think that is the term) use these video camera magnifiers? CaleyAnn
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I use a Celestron microscope $30 on ebay does plenty . The software sucks so I went to there website and downloaded a different driver for a different version and it works great. I also modified the scope to diffuse the light because they are way to bright. Anyway.... it's a thought. I started roll searching with Presidential dollar coins then went to quarters and now I grab whatever but I try to stick to mint or proof sets so I can have higher grade specimens. |
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If you buy a microscope, Anything over 30X is over kill. I use an infinite zoom scope the goes from 3.5-35X. It allows you to get closer when you need it. But not too much when the hub doubling is too minor. When you use anything above that, the slightest machine movement can show you stuff that is not a die issue, but a striking issue. When I see an image with just one large device, it was taken with too much power. There should be 3-5 devices in a shot. That way we can see a reference point. Is the devices actually enlarged or are they just die movement during the strike. Sometimes notching can look like a die issue, but when you look too closely, it is either too minor, or just a striking issue. Just like RPMs, doubled dies can be too minor to list. The more spread on a coin, the more desirable a doubled die will be. So when I look at an image with just one device, I find it a waste of time. If you use enough power on a scope, even a speck of dirt will look like a mountain. So don't get a scope with a range that will useless for searching.
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Thanks for the information. Glad I asked before I spent anything. I'll do more research into magnification from 5X to say 40X. May not need 40X, but it is always nice to have in case I want it for something else. CaleyAnn
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Coop, Still haven't found what you mentioned for magnification. All I get when I Google things is a rifle scope, which I'm sure isn't quite what you're talking about. Still hunting. CaleyAnn
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Coop, Thanks, but that's just a tad beyond my budget. I think I will stick with jeweler's loupes. I'll just get two more at 20X and 30X, and that should work fine, at a much more reasonable cost. I'd rather put the hundreds of dollars in my Large Cent collection anyway. CaleyAnn
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Hello all. Hi uslc-- I am going through the same things as yourself
Working on a better mag system and really trying to learn all the differences in the "doubling" arena. Good luck. I'm Jase from Pocono mountains.
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Hi Jase, Thanks for the welcome. All this stuff about double dies, OMM's, RPM's, etc. is new to me. I live in the far west, so getting Philadelphia minted coins is very difficult, and those are usually in terrible condition. Since Philadelphia coins seem to be the target for most of the errors, I am guessing that what comes this way has pretty much been picked over already. All I can do is play the game, looking through coins for that remote possibility that something might pop up. Since I had credit on Amazon, I picked up two jeweler's loupes to supplement what I already had. I now have 5X, 10X, 20X and 30X. That should be all I will ever need. Only spent $12 for the two new loupes. Like I said, I would rather spend my money on coins, instead of expensive equipment. Good luck on your search for the elusive errors. CaleyAnn |
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