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Another 1836 Gobrecht Dollar For Your Review

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Here is a second 1836 Gobrecht dollar. This was the piece that was in my collection until I upgraded to the coin I showed last week.

This one has die alignment IV. That means that if you turn the piece on the vertical axis, the eagle is flying flat or straight across instead of onward and upward. It has long been assumed that that such coins were mint restrikes that were produced in the 1850s for collectors.

My problem with that theory is many of these coins that I have seen were not well preserved. They usually had handling marks and even a little wear. If they were in fact struck in the 1850s to satisfy collector demand, why didn't those collectors preserve them better?

Oh well, here is the coin. I bought it raw in the late 1980s and had it slabbed when market forces demanded it.
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As usual, WOW
Now that you have replaced it, I assume you are looking to give it away..
I can take it if you are...
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Sorry, I sold it long ago.
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Very nice coin. What causes the hairline markings travelling diagonally NW to SE on it?
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Awesome coin

PR-58?
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i'll go with PR58 also.
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Same here. The thumbing keeps it from MS, imo. Still gorgeous. Better than mine for sure.
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PR-58
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PR 62.
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I see a touch of wear on Liberty's head and breast. Likewise, there is very minor wear at the tip of the eagle's left wing and on the thigh. The fields have little or no luster, nor do they seem to show any proof-like reflectivity. There are obvious hairline scratches on both sides from an abrasive cleaning.

Gobrecht dollars are obviously rare and valuable and TPGs may give them a pass on minor "problems". I'd strictly grade this coin as "PR-58 details, cleaned" but I could easily see PCGS or NGC giving it a no-problem PR-58 grade. Regardless, very few collectors will ever own a Gobrecht dollar and I for one would love to have it.
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NGC graded this piece PR-60. My grade is PR-55. This is more Proof surface on this piece than is showing in the photo.
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That is an incredible coin!
It is on my: "I just want hold one before I die" coins. Would love to see that dollar in hand!

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