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There are many "No Cents" Mint State 1883 V nickels around. But this one is mine. It's in a PCGS slab. I love the broken die features -- the cracks all over, the polishing lines, and the other unique identifiers. Perhaps this was an EDS that suffered premature die failure, or maybe a buffed-out LDS as they tried to squeeze out a few more coins. It is a bit of an oddity in a sea of nearly-identical 1883 N/C's. A bit of a maverick -- no perfect dies here, and that suits my personality very, very well. Thoughts on a grade?      Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
Edited by paralyse 04/30/2016 01:33 am
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Nice - looks like a cameo proof! Assuming reverse hairlines are on the slab, I'll say no worse than 64.
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Exceptional strike with all obverse stars fully struck and the reverse left ear of corn ever so close to fully struck. As Coinfrog noted I would swear it was a proof strike. If a business strike I would guess MS64PL. Wonderful example. 
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Quote: MS-64 PL. Nice coin! I don't believe PCGS gives PL designations to Liberty nickels. I agree with MS-64.
Edited by Canadian-Banknotes 04/30/2016 8:15 pm
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Quote:I don't believe PCGS gives PL designations to Liberty nickels. Still, the whole point is to give it the grade you would give it. This coin is PL, weather or not PCGS decides to mention that has no effect on what the coin really is. Buy the coin, not the slab.
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Quote: Still, the whole point is to give it the grade you would give it. This coin is PL, weather or not PCGS decides to mention that has no effect on what the coin really is. What criteria do you use to determine whether or not a Liberty nickel is PL or not? Is it clear reflection in the fields from 2-4" away (The same as a Morgan dollar)?
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Quote:What criteria do you use to determine whether or not a Liberty nickel is PL or not? The ANA defines a proof like coin as Quote: "an uncirculated coin with a mirrorlike reflective surface but lacking the full characteristics of a proof..." At the Morgan dollars it basically says "1" to 2" semi prooflike, 2"to 4" prooflike, and beyond 4" is deep mirror prooflike". The ANA doesn't have prooflike standards for any nickel. It is simply up to the company grading the coin to determine what grade it is and what designation it gets. Keep in mind that a grade is not scientific... Coin grades are opinions on coins. you can get an AU morgan and submit it enough times to get a MS slab. Again, buy the coin for the eye appeal not for the numerical grade (coin not the slab).
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Quote:The ANA doesn't have prooflike standards for any nickel. This is why I asked. How would someone know a PL from a non-PL nickel when there isn't measurable criteria set out for determining whether or not a Liberty nickel is prooflike? Just because a Morgan dollar has reflective fields, doesn't necessarily make it a PL coin.
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I do not consider the coin PL. It is very well struck and has sharp definition but the contrast is not really present to the extent that it looks in the images.
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The strike indicates a proof coin. Many Lib Nickels I had graded in 1980's; PGCS graded MS now regrade as proofs. Modern grade PR-64 CAM. 1980's grade MS-65, or MS64 green label.
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