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Hi everyone, I just plucked these two coins from a dealer's junk bin. One appears to be from Syria & has that distinctive color of silver, but I cannot find the type in my Krause. The Second is obviously from 1951 & is probably a country that was probably under the influence of the Soviet Union given the imagery & Cyrillic lettering. Any help IDing these two coins would be appreciated!



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#2 - Bulgaria, 3 stotinki.
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DL20K- Thanks! Any guesses about the ID of the first one?
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I'm quite sure that #1 is a 10 piastres coin from Syria dated AD1973 (AH1393), although it isn't listed in my 2002 Krause either.

And that is because we both forgot that the islamic falcon was also used by Egypt. Try looking at 10 millemes from 1973 (Krause #435). The only discrepancy that I see is that it is supposed to be brass. I know you thought that it was silver. What diameter is the coin?
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spence- yeah, that's what I thought as well! But what is also strange is that most Syrian coins from the 1970s are either aluminum or bronze. Yet, my coin looks & slightly sounds of silver. I wonder if there were some coins which were a low percentage of silver minted around that time.
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Coin 1 is a 10 Milliemes 1973-1393 from Egypt. What size is it?
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andyg- Thanks for the help! It is 21mm. But my krause says that it should be Brass. There is no way that this thing is brass. It looks & sounds of silver. Were there any issues which could have been in silver, such as something along the lines of a mint set containing silver?
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Number one most definitely is a 10 Milliemes from Egypt. http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1819.html

It should be brass, there are no silver (proof?) variants known for what I know.
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Do we have its weight?

There was an alu version one year before:

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The inscriptions look the same as on your coin (to someone who can't read them, at least).
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His coin is a 1973 coin, your coin is the 1972 coin. You can tell as the date is on 7 to 8 o'clock on the coin. It's in Eastern Arabic numerals, where I is 1, 9 is 9, V is 7 and the flag is 3. The short flag (as on your coin) is 2. More on these numbers here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easte...bic_numerals

The date at 4 to 5 o'clock on the coin is the Arab or islamic date.
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I know, that's why I said: "one year before".
The numerals are the only thing I can read on these coins.
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That's great. I tried to learn some Arabic some time ago, but didn't get much further than the numbers, as it's not the easiest language to write. The 1972 coin is from a different series, as you probably already know. 1972 is aluminum, 1973-1976 is brass.

I bet the weight is 3.2 gram on the coin Archraz has and that it turns out to have a brassy feeling.

For those interested, the reading on the first coin is 3 STOTINKI 1951 and on the obverse NARODNA REPUBLIKA 9 IX 1944 BULGARIA.

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Coin 1 is a 10 Milliemes 1973-1393 from Egypt. What size is it?
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Egypt 10 milliemes 1393 - 1973

References:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1819.html#
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