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1923 Monroe Commemorative Half Dollar For You To Grade

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Among the "old" commemorative half dollars, a couple coins, the Sesquicentennial and the Monroe issued, are noted to be usually hard difficult in attractive condition. The problem with the Monroe is rooted in the nature of the design, which is in low relief, and the fact that the left over coins were released into general circulation after attempts were made to sell the coins as collectors' items.

It is interesting to note that these coins were issued in connection with the Hollywood film industry. The year, 1923, marked the 100th anniversary of the announcing of the Monroe Doctrine. Apparently there were plans to make a film about that event, but if the film was made, I have never seen or heard about it.

At rate, what grade do you think PCGS gave this piece?
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Is there no interest in this piece? Should I have posted it among the non circulating issues?
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I'll take a stab at it and say PCGS MS-66.

With regards to the movie, all I could find was a 1939 drama-historical short film of 22 minutes starring Charles Waldron (Remember the Night, The Big Sleep) as President James Monroe and Grant Mitchell (Mr. Smith Goes to Washington) as John Quincy Adams.

Thanks for posting the background information on the coin. I never realized how much it had in connection with Hollywood.
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MS-64, I love the reverse design, very creative.
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I think 65 at best looking at shoulder and mark in left obverse field. But very attractive indeed.
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I'll say MS-65. Very attractive toning!
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One difficulty in grading early commemoratives has been the lack of a grading guide similar to ANA Photograde. As such, without being intimately familiar with a given series and date, you have to rely on contact marks, nicks, chatter, rub, etc. to try to grade a coin from that series. Not being familiar with the particular coin's quirks (strike weakness/strength, etc) I would say MS64 based on a spot of reverse field chatter to the right and obverse having a few nicks (left and right fields) visible under the toning.
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I'm by no means familiar with how to grade these commemoratives but to me looks about 63
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PCGS graded this Monroe half dollar MS-64.

This is the highest grade for this coin for me. The pieces that are graded MS-65 and better don't seem to much nicer given the high prices. To me MS-64 for this and the Philadelphia Sesquicentennial half dollar is the "sweet spot."
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