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Does This Ruin My Coin?

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 Posted 05/11/2016  06:17 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Teacupweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers

Good morning everyone,

I'm completely clueless when it comes to coinage, I believe this is a Constantine I RIC VII 214?

I'm not sure on the worth, quality or if the fact it's been set in a necklace really ruins it.

Any help would be appreciated. :)

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 Posted 05/11/2016  06:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
teacupweather, welcome to CCF! I'll let the Roman coin experts weigh in on value of this coin, but it looks to me like the necklace holder goes around the coin rather than attaching or mounting directly. If so, you should be able to remove it pretty easily with no damage to the coin. I think that the necklace bezel is made from silver, so be sure to save the leftover pieces for their scrap value.
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 Posted 05/11/2016  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks safe to me from here!
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 Posted 05/11/2016  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like dspencer said I'll let the Roman experts weigh in, but it looks to me like LRB (Late Roman Bronze) which is extremely common, so there's a good chance it's only worth a pound or two. In that case the bezel might be worth more than the coin.

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 Posted 05/11/2016  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lrbguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The images lack contrast in critical places making certain details difficult to see. But the main features are clear enough for us to get close.

Your identification of the coin is essentially correct but without specifying the name of the mint it is ambiguous. Coins in RIC VII are arranged by mint, and the numbering starts over for each mint. So your coin is #214 for the mint at Siscia, during the period 328-329 A.D. RIC VII Siscia 214 is a Providentiae Campgate for Constantine I. The officina (workshop) mark appears ahead of the rest of the mark lettering, but in this case it is mostly off the flan. The residual mark SEEMS to suggest the letter is a Beta (for officina 2) but the image is not clear enough for me to be sure.

There is one thing about this coin that gives me pause, and that has to do with the configuration of the "headband" that the emperor is wearing. The two varieties for this coin type and its mate (#215) are a laurel wreath and a rosette diadem. What I can make out does not look like either. The attribution to #214 is based mainly on the obverse inscription, CONSTAN - TINVS AVG, accompanied by a laureal wreath. But in the image of your coin the inscription is fine, but it looks like he is wearing a square-cell diadem. If so, that would not correspond to anything listed. I am sure it is the wreath, but I would like to see a brighter and sharper image to be certain.

As others have pointed out, I don't think your coin is being harmed much by the jewelry mount, except for its exposure to wear and tear. If it is a normal variety, then you may as well leave it as a necklace, since it has little financial value ($10-20) and less utility in a collection. However, it is still in a decent state of preservation and should make a fine conversation piece as jewelry.

I doubt that it is a diadem on the obverse, but if it should happen to be so, then that would change everything.
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 Posted 05/11/2016  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My main concern is what they may have done to the coin to get it to fit nicely into a nice round bezel. I have seen, and I have in my possession, ancient bronzes that have had their edges filed away to make them nice and round for inserting into modern jewellery.
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 Posted 05/11/2016  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the community.

From the looks of the bezel it appears to be the type that has a screw up by the loop. If so you should be able to unscrew it without any damage to the coin. You can than examine the coin.
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 Posted 05/11/2016  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mintmark is SIS (Siscia).
Coin is a common type in low grade.
As mentioned above the bezel is worth more than the coin.
I would keep it as a 'knickknack' or if you like
Buy a silver chain on ebay and wear it !
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 Posted 05/11/2016  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
teacup

Yes, I think this would be nice as a necklace on a silver chain.
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