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Rare Wheat Cent Struck On Fragment/Scrap

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I picked up this 195X-S Cent struck on a Wheat cent fragment at a recent coin show at a nice price. I didn't realize until I did some research that struck fragment errors are worth significantly more when both obverse and reverse are die struck. Even more valuable is that it's struck on a Wheat cent versus a Memorial cent. I researched the Web and could not find an example struck on a Wheat cent. The ones I did find were all Memorials. The coin weighs .8 Grams and is very thin. Nice eye appeal. Just thought I would share.

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Thickness compared to a normal cent
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 Posted 05/12/2016  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool buy... I THINK its an OK cent, but I'd send it in to PCGS if I were you...
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I am not sure. To me looks like it was a normal Cent that was broke in half after it left the mint and the edge was ground. Lets see what others say
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Not worried one bit about authenticity but I planned on slabbing in NGC holder anyway.
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I am simply posting this error coin to share it, not to get someone's opinion as to whether it real or not. Anyone with any error experience can clearly see from the pictures it's an authentic struck on fragment error.
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 Posted 05/12/2016  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not familiar with this type error. I wish you the best of luck with NGC.
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 Posted 05/12/2016  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tunnioc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool error coin!
1953 S, my best guess.
I would go with PCGS.
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Very interesting! Would like to see a straight on obverse pic before or after authentication. Will respect your wishes and hold my observations for now. Thanks, Doug.
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Do you have calipers to measure the thickness of the coin in comparison with another coin at the same spot? Since the last photo compares the edge of the fragment against the rolled edge of the coin, the comparison doesn't work. I would like an expert to weigh in here, as I am a novice. I also don't understand how a sharp break edge would be possible without a retainer. I would think a partial planchet would spread out upon being struck. But the coin maintains its thickness right until the break, which does not seem possible to me if it were a fragment of a planchet that was struck.
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1st of all, the fragment only weighs .8 grams which is about 1/4 the weight of a normal copper cent but exhibits about 1/2 of of the design elements. This as well, as it's thin appearance, confirms that it's approx. 1/2 the thickness of a normal cent. Secondly, along the ragged edge area, you will notice evidence of planchet cracking entering into the field, which is evidence that it's struck on a fragment or scrap. Thirdly, the coin exhibits striking weakness noticed especially in 0 of One due to the thinness of the fragment. Aristarchus123, due to the thinness of the fragment and resulting weak strike, I would not expect the ragged edge to be thinned out from the strike. You are assuming that I don't know much about errors since you wanted an expert to weigh in.
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EXTREMELY cool and unique piece! it looks right to me from what I can see. the interesting part to me is the thickness, you'd think if it was a split planchet that you would see some ruggedness on the side that would've split from the other half but it is quite smooth. I think it may not only be a planchet fragment but also thinly rolled stock. what an interesting coin! thanks for sharing.
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a little confused if that was directed at my comment(i have no idea why it would be?) or the OP
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No doubt it's a genuine piece. Cool pick-up, Zimmy. And thanks for sharing!
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Nothing to do with you Thedollarman.
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Hey, Zimmy, no insult intended. My reference to an expert was related to my self-description as a novice. Good luck, and I hope it comes back as authentic (and a valuable one!).
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