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On this 1859 mystery coin thread #3, all of the coins shown will have die cracks which will make the identification easier than some of the previous coins. This will be a good opportunity for some new collectors of 1859's to try out the website, and make a guess. For obverse die cracks, use this link to find photos of known die cracks and match them with the mystery coin to identify it. http://www.vickycents.com/id-by-obv-markers.htmlFor reverse die cracks, use this link: http://www.vickycents.com/id-by-rev-markers.htmlIf new collectors have questions about how to navigate or use the information on the website to identify coins, just ask and we will try to help you out. Mystery coin # 38 will be posted soon. |
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So this will be the "wise crack" thread? Sorry someone needed to say it.
Seriously though, whenever I get a batch of new 59s I sort them by die crack and no die cracks first, then I id all of them with die cracks rather quickly. Almost like shooting fish in a barrel... Ed
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05/13/2016 10:23 am
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Number 38 obverse. Remember, when comparing the die cracks, they may not look identical, because die cracks change as the crack progresses. So look for a crack in the catalog with the same location and shape, then check out the die for other matching features.  Detail of die crack.  |
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Going through Obverse markers -> Die Cracks on "R" of REGINA
It matches Obverse 31a, and the Description of State 4
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Good call Greg. It is obverse 31a. I sure wish it was DP#5 okiecoiner. It would be a nice one. Even though it isn't the DP9 #5, it is a variety that's listed in the back of the 2011 Charlton. Here's the reverse.  Edited by Phil310
05/13/2016 8:10 pm
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Yay! Glad I could get one right hehe.
I enjoy doing these mystery coins, but want to give some others a chance at guessing - so I'll just indicate some significant features and see if anyone can come up with it from those.
Die Cracks on Leaves 12 and 16
Original Vine Loop 2
Narrow Gap on Vine Loop 7
I just figured out the answer on this coin. Interested in seeing what others come up with.
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Here are some closeups of the die cracks you pointed out Greg. Leaf 12.  Leaf 16.  |
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Number 39 if thats ok  Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut.
"Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more
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Coin # 38 - Obverse identified as 31a, still waiting on reverse and die pair.
Coin # 39 - Look at the CA of CANADA.
Coin # 40 - Will post this afternoon.
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Coin # 40.   |
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9/6 type 1 ...always such a nice tough one.. Has there been any discussion about turning the type 1 into the type 2 and vise-versa..? A CCF member mentioned this to me recently.. |
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In the Haxby catalog, this die is referred to as the 9/6 type 2. This is more obvious and the better known die of the 2, but Jim found the other 9/6 before this one and so the other 9/6 is referred to as type 1. I believe he may have written about that on a previous thread. If I can find it, I will post a link to that thread. Here's a closeup of the die crack at leaf 12. What's the Haxby die pair for this one?  |
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The 9/6 posted is the one that we put in the Charlton and got it included in Trends. Most collectors know this as a Type 1, because that's the first that many had heard of this variety and started the rush to try to buy and own one. I don't think that it makes any difference that Jim discovered the type 2 first .. 99% of the collectors discovered this type 1 first.
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You're right okiecoiner, about this one being generally referred to by collectors as type 1. I was trying to respond to DEVLEC's question as to "turning type 1 into the type 2 and vise-versa" and why Jim listed them as he did in his catalog.
Someday there may even be a type 3. I'm sure there are more dies out there waiting to be discovered.
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Posted 05/13/2016 10:36 am
