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Crussader/Jerusalem/Italy Unkown Denier?

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 Posted 06/02/2016  10:29 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add vince1977 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all,

Ive got this medieval , probably 13th century coin. which I can't identify myself. The type cross looks different then usual. With points in th end. Besides that the cantons seems to have a bird/dot lookalike?

I though an temple was on the other side but I haven't found an comparing one. Some on crussader coins have a few similarities but the lyrics are different.



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 Posted 06/02/2016  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not 100% sure, but perhaps this is it:

Crusaders, Kingdom of Cyprus, Hugh I , 1205-1218 , under regency of Gautier de Montbeliard 1205-1210
Billon Denier

obv: + VGONIS RE, cross with crescent and pellet in 1st and
4th quarter and pellet in 2nd and 3rd quarter.
rev: + DE CIPRO, Gateway.

Your coin with others for comparison:

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 Posted 06/02/2016  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vince1977 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice! It is also an pretty rare denier... on Vcoins sold for 750 pounds. Apprarently this type is uncommon.
Were did you find these others above? I did try mcsearch but couldnt find others. Only with an star in the getaway..

I am very impressed Bob how fast you did find the determination!
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I'm terrible at retracing my steps, Vince. I don't remember where I spotted the first example I found, but I do recall that the other one was from Vladislav D's gallery at Forum:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/ga...?pos=-108542

He has it listed there as "very rare." Congrats on owning a rarity!
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Thanks alot! I like his gallery aswell. Shows alot of crussader coins and different types! I did ad it to my links online. Very helpfull in the further
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This is an excellent PDF about crusader coins. https://vk.com/doc145099063_3804910...e38d0ba38ce9
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