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Edited by CoinCents 06/04/2016 07:19 am
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Thanks BlueSolo, Yes, I noticed your absence (hope you're Okay). Yes, if this is a Cud it is my first - I had no idea what it looked like under my scope. I checked out the listing that you gave me (thanks) but the pictures aren't close-ups so I will hunt around the INTERNET and see if I can find some more for this quarter - So totally cool  Thanks for writing back on my post.
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If it is raised above the surface it is most likely a Cud. John1 
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Yep, it is raised. Seeing it in hand and under the scope is amazing compared to a photo of what it looks like.
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Edited by BlueSolo 06/04/2016 2:56 pm
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Vacation and Moving are usually complete opposites - glad that all is well.
Thanks again.
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Hopefully you moved into the "Philly" coins areas. These seen to have the most varieties to be found.
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If it is indeed the CU-25c-2006P-1RC(ND) then what happened to the die crack in stage B? Still Lookin
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I feel this might be two different dies. The Cud is larger and doesn't have the die crack. That would be the only explanation for this to me.
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Here is a closer up comparison image. I think mine just got a little more flattened on the edges. But is there a significance to mine having the Die crack on the front and none on the reverse? 
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As far as I know Cuds and die cracks will only stay the same or more likely get larger as more coins are produced (as the die pair ages). If your coin is missing the die crack and the Cud is larger then it can not be from the same die pair.
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I honestly don't know. The Obverse coin image on the COC listing does not have the die crack at the bottom of the bust and mine does as in my picture above. What it all means with the die pairs is what the question is then.
I emailed JC Stevens, so when he gets a chance I am sure he will look into this post to help us along.
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There are two dies (obverse and reverse) required to make a coin. These two are the die pair. Either die may be changed at any point by a mint worker. I don't think the obverse die crack has as much to do with trying to match up the Cud with the COC Cud. Your Cud is larger which would mean that it is a later die state if it is the same as the COC Cud. If the obverses were from the same die then yours should have the same or larger die crack. However the mint could have changed the obverse die. There reverse of the coin on COC has a die crack at the lower part of Cud. Your Cud if it were from the same reverse die would have to be a later die state because your Cud is larger. If it were a later die state then it should also include the same reverse die crack. The crack could even be larger than the one posted on COC.
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Great explanation, now I understand it better  thanks for taking the time to write it all out for me. My problem is that this is my first Cud so I am not familiar with what I am looking at or looking for. Definitely no die crack here on mine so then this would get a New Cud listing. Thank you very much.
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