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2007 Chinese Holed Coin Vs. 2016 Yin Yang Holed Coin

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 Posted 06/13/2016  3:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A question was asked on the RCM site about whether this coin was a complement to the 2007 release and whether more were on the way. Here's the RCM reply:

We're pleased that you like the Tiger and Dragon Yin and Yang coin. You're right; this coin complements the 2007 square-hole coin and not intended as a series. If it proves to be popular with coin collectors, we will likely follow up with a third coin in 2017.

My translation: the RCM already has a "square hole" design in the hopper for next year and will almost certainly be issuing it.




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 Posted 06/13/2016  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks commems. That is disappointing but not surprising. It's too bad that the Mint does not seems to understand coin collectors.
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 Posted 06/13/2016  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I understand the RCM reply as "all is possible"
without getting clear answer, which they tried to avoid.


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If it proves to be popular with coin collectors, we will likely follow up with a third coin in 2017.


and the phrase above is too generic, since serves all the public circles, but not the collectors.
Collectors of any type, usually prefer the items not to be repeated.
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 Posted 06/14/2016  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My 2016 coin arrived today. I used the same scale and setup as I used for my initial post, calibrated it the same way as I did previously, put the new coin on the scale and held my breath -- literally, as I didn't want to breathe on the coin and potentially have any tiny water droplets fall onto it!

It weighed 20.87 grams - within 0.01 grams of the RCM's listed 20.86 grams weight for the coin and well within accepted tolerances (and/or my scale's accuracy).

So, it seems rather clear (at least by my measurements) that the weight listed for the 2007 "Chinese Coin" on the RCM's web site is incorrect; the coin does not weigh 25.18 grams. And, unless my coin is a complete aberration, the correct weight for the coin is not the 23.99 grams specified on the coin's COA either. I've weighed my 2007 coin six times, each time the scale has read between 23.02 and 23.04 grams.

Anyone else have the 2007 coin and access to a scale? It would be great if someone could corroborate what I've found with my coins.


BTW, the coin is well-done and attractive in hand.



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I received my Tiger & Dragon Yin Yang coin today; as anyone else noticed the square hole is a bit rough, it looks like it was filed out by hand?
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The hole scanned at 1200dpi
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I received my Tiger & Dragon Yin Yang coin today; as anyone else noticed the square hole is a bit rough, it looks like it was filed out by hand?

Yes, same as with the 2007 coins. There is definitely some variation in the square hole from coin to coin. From images I've seen, some look rougher around the interior edges than others.


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Yes, the hole quality does vary, doesn't it?

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2007 reverse

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2007 obverse

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2016 reverse for contrast
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